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[Dark Knight]

Please post your thoughts, pictures and comments on tonight's games in this thread.

Toronto at Boston
Montreal at Florida
Minnesota at Nashville
STL at Edmonton
Chicago at Phoenix
Philadelphia at LAK

[lvsprt]

Can STL knock off Edmonton, not sure. Can Philly do a number on the Kings? One can only hope.

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TSN's Ice Chips

Updated Thursday, November 16
Toronto Maple Leafs:
Projected lineup vs. Boston:

Forwards:
Ponikarovsky - Antropov - Wellwood
Steen - Stajan - O'Neill
Battaglia - Peca - Tucker
Kilger - Pohl - Belak

Defence:
Kaberle - McCabe
Bell - Kubina
Gill - White

Goal: Aubin
Scratch: Suglobov

Notes: Kaberle on an 8-game points streak (7 G, 8 A). McCabe has 3 G, 6 A over the same stretch. Kaberle and McCabe are T1 and T3 (with Pronger and Niedermayer) for points by defencemen. Kubina will play only his 4th game of the season after missing 5 weeks with a sprained MCL and to attend the birth of his daughter in the CZR. Aubin allowed 2 goals on 7 shots and Thomas allowed 3 goals on 10 shots in the Leafs/Bruins game one week ago. - TSN


Boston Bruins:
Projected lineup vs. Toronto:

Forwards:
Axelsson - Savard - Murray
Sturm - Bergeron - Boyes*
Primeau - Kessel - Donovan
Chistov - Mowers - Tenkrat

Defence:
Chara - Alberts
B. Stuart - Mara
Jurcina - Dempsey

Goal: Thomas
Scratches: York

Notes: Boyes was a gametime decision and got the green light. He suffered an undisclosed injury last night in Washington, although Boyes' linemate Bergeron said it's an "upper body-lower body thing". We suspect it's in the kidney area. Yan Stastny was been called up in case Boyes couldn't go. - TSN


Calgary Flames: The Flames lines in Thursday's skate were the same as Wednesday. Coach Playfair said Friesen is further along than they thought he would be. He will be a game time decision on Friday. - TSN


Detroit Red Wings:
Thursday Skate:

Forwards:
Zetterberg - Williams - Lang
Hudler - Datsyuk - Samuelsson
Maltby - Draper - Cleary
Franzen - Holmstom - Filppula
Kopecky

Notes: The Wings ran passing drills, 3-on-0s and 3-2s after a forced turnover at the defensive blueline, PP drills, defending the cycle, defensive zone coverage, 2-on-1s and a quick conditioning skate at the end. It looks like Jason Wiliams is very close to a return. - TSN


San Jose Sharks: Jonathan Cheechoo may have suffered a sprained knee in last night's match against the Avs. The severity of the injury will be determined later today but sources report the injury to be considerably more serious than day to day. - TSN


Dallas Stars: The leg injury suffered by forward Jere Lehtinen on Wednesday does not appear to be serious. - Fort-Worth Star Telegram


Phoenix Coyotes: Centre Mike Ricci has been sent down the AHL on a conditioning stint, and will play on Friday and Saturday. - Phoenix Coyotes


Buffalo Sabres: Ryan Miller was in net for Wednesday's practice for the first time since straining a muscle. His return date is still unknown. - Buffalo News


Minnesota Wild: Forward Marian Gaborik has finally be placed on the injured reserve list with his groin injury. Defenceman Keith Carney was back at practice on Wednesday after being hit behind his ear on Tuesday by an Ed Jovanovski shot. Jacques Lemaire will decide later today if he will play tonight. - Minneapolis-St. Paul Star Tribune


Colorado Avalanche: Centre Pierre Turgeon will not be back in the Colorado lineup until December, as his rehab from rotator cuff surgery is progressing slower than originally thought. Defenceman Jordan Leopold returned to practice on Wednesday, but there is no set date for his return. - Denver Post


Detroit Red Wings: Goaltender Chris Osgood should be available on Friday when Detroit plays in Calgary. The club also expects forward Tomas Holmstrom to return. - Detroit News


Chicago Blackhawks: Nikolai Khabibulin will dress as the backup goaltender tonight when the Blackhawks play the Coyotes. Brian Boucher will be the starter. - Chicago Sun-Times

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Boston Bruins' Stanislav Chistov (13) of Russia is sent into the net on a shot attempt as Toronto Maple Leafs goalie Jean-Sebastian Aubin makes a save and Maple Leafs' Matt Stajan (14) looks on in the first period of an NHL hockey game, Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006, in Boston.
(AP Photo/Mary Schwalm)


Toronto Maple Leafs goalie Jean-Sebastian Aubin makes a save on a shot attempt by Boston Bruins' Stanislav Chistov (13) of Russia as Maple Leafs' Matt Stajan (14) looks on in the first period of their NHL hockey game, Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006, in Boston.
(AP Photo/Mary Schwalm)

[GLOVESAVE35]

Update:

Toronto 1 Boston 1 3RD

Montreal 1 Florida 4 2ND

Minnesota 2 Nashville 3 2ND

St. Louis 0 Edmonton 2 1ST

Chicago 0 Phoenix 1 1ST

[DropThePuck]

Either Chistov is getting major ice time or he's just all over the ice since he's in a bunch of these above and below photos ...

Final:
TOR: 1 MCCABE, B. (PPG, 13:18 in 3rd)
BOS: 2 OT KESSEL, P. (PPG, 14:09 in 1st), BERGERON, P. (00:34 in OT)




Boston Bruins' Stanislav Chistov of Russia, right, protects the puck against Toronto Maple Leafs' Matt Stajan, in the first period of their NHL hockey game, Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006, in Boston.
(AP Photo/Mary Schwalm)


Boston Bruins' Wayne Primeau (20) goes over Toronto Maple Leafs goalie Jean-Sebastian Aubin as he chases the puck in the second period of an NHL hockey game, Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006, in Boston.
(AP Photo/Mary Schwalm)


Toronto Maple Leafs' Bates Battaglia (33) tries to get a shot on goal as Boston Bruins' Paul Mara (23) and goalie Tim Thomas defend in the second period of their NHL hockey game, Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006, in Boston.
(AP Photo/Mary Schwalm)

[DropThePuck]

Less than half the third is left to go and it's ...

MTL: 1 PLEKANEC, T. (12:26 in 2nd)
FLA: 4 GRATTON, C. (09:16 in 1st), JOKINEN, O. (00:37 in 2nd), JOKINEN, O. (16:53 in 2nd), BOUWMEESTER, J. (PPG, 19:35 in 2nd)



Montreal Canadiens center Tomas Plekanec, of the Czech Republic, left rear, and right wing Aaron Downey (47) attempt to check Florida Panthers center Gregory Campbell during the first period of hockey Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006, in Sunrise, Fla.
(AP Photo/Wilfredo Lee)

[DropThePuck]

End of the 2nd and it's a scoring spree ...

MIN: 4 WALZ, W. (SHG, 09:54 in 1st), KOIVU, M. (PPG, 02:28 in 2nd), DUPUIS, P. (13:06 in 2nd), VEILLEUX, S. (19:06 in 2nd)
NSH: 6 6LEGWAND, D. (08:09 in 1st), SUTER, R. (17:38 in 1st), HAMHUIS, D. (18:34 in 1st), TIMONEN, K. (PPG, 12:28 in 2nd), FIDDLER, V. (13:52 in 2nd), SULLIVAN, S. (16:05 in 2nd)



Referee Wes McCauley jumps over the puck as Nashville Predators right wing Steve Sullivan (26) digs it out against the boards in the first period of an NHL hockey game against the Minnesota Wild in Nashville, Tenn., Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006.
(AP Photo/Mark Humphrey)


Nashville Predators center David Legwand (11) flips over Minnesota Wild goalie Manny Fernandez as Legwand scores a goal in the first period of an NHL hockey game in Nashville, Tenn., Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006.
(AP Photo/Mark Humphrey)


Nashville Predators center David Legwand (11) scores a goal against Minnesota Wild goalie Manny Fernandez (35) in the first period of an NHL hockey game in Nashville, Tenn., Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006.
(AP Photo/Mark Humphrey)


Nashville Predators defenseman Dan Hamhuis (2) goes down on the ice to block a shot by Minnesota Wild right wing Pierre-Marc Bouchard (96) in the second period of an NHL hockey game in Nashville, Tenn., Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006. At left is Predators goalie Chris Mason (30).
(AP Photo/Mark Humphrey)

[DropThePuck]

Minnesota ties it and OT ends with neither scoring. It's shootout time ...

MIN: 6 WALZ, W. (SHG, 09:54 in 1st), KOIVU, M. (PPG, 02:28 in 2nd), DUPUIS, P. (13:06 in 2nd), VEILLEUX, S. (19:06 in 2nd), DEMITRA, P. (PPG, 05:26 in 3rd), BURNS, B. (11:39 in 3rd)
NSH: 6 LEGWAND, D. (08:09 in 1st), SUTER, R. (17:38 in 1st), HAMHUIS, D. (18:34 in 1st), TIMONEN, K. (PPG, 12:28 in 2nd), FIDDLER, V. (13:52 in 2nd), SULLIVAN, S. (16:05 in 2nd)

[Nordy]

Min won it... Did you see that shootout... Can someone explain to me why that goal didn't count.. I couldnt understand the final ruling on it?

[Aeryn]

Kariya got some serious air when he drew that PS. Is it possible to draw a PS and get a diving call at the same time?

I'm not clear on the finer points of SO rules, but I'd like to know why Erat's goal didn't count.

[DropThePuck]

At the end of two, Loops with a PPG ...

STL: 1 TKACHUK, K. (06:58 in 2nd)
EDM: 5 SMYTH, R. (02:07 in 1st), REASONER, M. (08:30 in 1st), BERGERON, M. (PPG, 12:08 in 1st), LUPUL, J. (PPG, 01:18 in 2nd), BERGERON, M. (PPG, 10:39 in 2nd)



After losing his stick St. Louis Blues' Ryan Johnson, center, prepares to block a shot from Edmonton Oilers Marc-Andre Bergeron, right, as Blues teammates goalie Manny Legace, left,and Bryce Salvador look on during the first period of NHL hockey action at Edmonton's Rexall Place, in Canada, on Thursday, November 16, 2006.
(AP Photo/Marc Bence,CP)


St. Louis Blues' Bryce Salvador (27) is pushed into Edmonton Oilers netminder Dwayne Roloson (35) during the first period of NHL hockey action at Edmonton's Rexall Place in Canada, on Thursday, November 16, 2006.
(AP Photo/Marc Bence,CP)


St. Louis Blues' Jamal Mayers, left,fights for the puck with Edmonton Oilers' Raffi Torres during the first period of NHL hockey action at Edmonton's Rexall Place in Canada, on Thursday, November 16, 2006.
(AP Photo/Jimmy Jeong,CP)

Goalie Manny Legace #34 of the St. Louis Blues dives for the puck during the first period of their match against the Edmonton Oilers at Rexall Place on November 16, 2006 in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.

[DropThePuck]

Min won it... Did you see that shootout... Can someone explain to me why that goal didn't count.. I couldnt understand the final ruling on it?

From the Wild website gamelog:

Erat can win it for Nashville, but no! He puts it off the post, off Backstrom and in. That's not a goal Erat touches it again after Backstrom touches the puck with his stick. It gets reviewed, but the replay booth gets it right.

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[Aeryn]

No goal can be scored on a rebound of any kind (an exception being the puck of the goal post or crossbar, then the goalkeeper and then directly into the goal),...

Either the folks in Toronto didn't see what we saw (entirely possible ) or the goalie making the initial poke check voids the above exception.

On another note, look what I found in my search:

If a team declines to participate in the shootout procedure, the game will be declared as a shootout loss for that Team.

Wouldn't that be a sight to see!

[DropThePuck]

Midway through the 3rd

CHI: 2 STEWART, K. (10:01 in 1st), LAPOINTE, M. (PPG, 11:33 in 1st)
PHX: 1 PERREAULT, Y. (PPG, 04:19 in 1st)


Chicago Blackhawks goalie Brian Boucher dives for but cannot catch up with a shot for a goal by Phoenix Coyotes center Yanic Perrault, not shown, in the first period of a hockey game Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006, in Glendale, Ariz.
(AP Photo/Paul Connors)


Phoenix Coyotes goalie Curtis Joseph swipes away a rebound after making a save against the Chicago Blackhawks in the first period of an NHL hockey game Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006, in Glendale, Ariz.
(AP Photo/Paul Connors)


Chicago Blackhawks right winger Martin LaPointe, left, checks Phoenix Coyotes right winger Frederik Sjostrom of Sweden, in the first period of an NHL hockey game Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006, in Glendale, Ariz.
(AP Photo/Paul Connors)


Phoenix Coyotes left winger Oleg Saprykin, left, of Russia, is knocked off his skates on a check by Chicago Blackhawks defenseman Adrian Aucoin in the first period of a hockey game Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006, in Glendale, Ariz.
(AP Photo/Paul Connors)

[Aeryn]

I think Wayne's head is near the explosion point again.


AZ commentators:
"Yes, it is a bench minor so the referees heard something they didn't like."

I'm guessing that it was Wayne screaming "F*** OFF!"...but it's just a guess.

[DropThePuck]

At the end of the 1st period ...

:LAK: 0
PHI: 1 SANDERSON, G. (18:56 in 1st)



Philadelphia Flyers' Mike Richards, left, battles for the puck with Los Angeles Kings' Mattias Norstrom, right, during the first period of an NHL Hockey game Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006, in Los Angeles.
(AP Photo/Danny Moloshok)

[Nordy]

Its interesting because from watching the reply it did not look like he touched it again.. it looked like it hit the post and then then the goalie put it in.... Oh well.. I guess I did see it differently then the Toronto peeps

[finagler]

Kings tie it up

[Aeryn]

Its interesting because from watching the reply it did not look like he touched it again.. it looked like it hit the post and then then the goalie put it in.... Oh well.. I guess I did see it differently then the Toronto peeps

Exactly, that's what I saw. That's why I'm thinking 1) Toronto is blind (like I said, that's entirely possible ) or 2) the goalie making the initial stop somehow voids the deflection exception. (Bonus point for the rhyme?)

He didn't touch the rebound...not to say he didn't try.

[Aeryn]

So what's worse....getting mowed down early on or giving up the lead late?

Kings went up 2 goals (3 depending on when the ref *thought* about blowing the whistle) and Philly just came back to score 2 to tie it up.

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Sheesh, there were about 8 guys crammed into the crease! And the puck didn't go in.

7.3 left, PHI penalty, Kings empty net....

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Ladies and gentlemen...we have a streak.

[GLOVESAVE35]

Queens lose in regulation, 4-3.

Kings fans can feel some of our pain.

[DropThePuck]

I think Wayne's head is near the explosion point again.


AZ commentators:
"Yes, it is a bench minor so the referees heard something they didn't like."

I'm guessing that it was Wayne screaming "F*** OFF!"...but it's just a guess.

Or maybe it was this??


Phoenix Coyotes coach Wayne Gretzky, top, gestures to referee Brad Watson, not shown, that a Chicago Blackhawks player took a dive to draw a penalty in the third period of an NHL hockey game Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006, in Glendale, Ariz. The Coyotes killed off double minor penalties in the period and won 3-2 in a shootout.
(AP Photo/Paul Connors)

[DropThePuck]

Final:

PHI: 4 SANDERSON, G. (18:56 in 1st), GAGNE, S. (13:13 in 3rd), UMBERGER, R. (13:53 in 3rd), UMBERGER, R. (16:23 in 3rd)
LAK: 3 FROLOV, A. (02:31 in 2nd), WILLSIE, B. (02:37 in 3rd), FROLOV, A. (09:24 in 3rd)



Philadelphia Flyers' Geoff Sanderson, left, takes a check from Los Angeles Kings' Dustin Brown, right, during the second period of an NHL Hockey game Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006, in Los Angeles.
(AP Photo/Danny Moloshok)


Philadelphia Flyers goaltender Antero Niittymaki, left, stops a shot by Los Angeles Kings' Alexander Frolov, right, but Frolov was able to hit in a rebound to score during the second period of an NHL Hockey game Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006, in Los Angeles.
(AP Photo/Danny Moloshok)


Los Angeles Kings' Tom Kostopoulos, right, runs into linesman Brian Murphy after he was checked by Philadelphia Flyers' Joni Pitkanen (not shown) during the second period of an NHL Hockey game against the Thursday, Nov. 16, 2006, in Los Angeles.
(AP Photo/Danny Moloshok)

Antero Nittymaki #30 of the Philadelphia Flyers blocks the shot of Anze Kopitar #11 of the Los Angeles Kings during the first period on November 16, 2006 at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, California.

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"I don't have a single answer for this," Kings forward Scott Thornton said. "We're a quarter of the way through the season and we're still making mistakes that we should have stopped making 10 games ago. You can't keep saying, 'Let's put this one behind us and move on.' Until we start learning from these things we're going to have a lot of ups and downs."

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