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[Todrick]

As brought up in another thread... is Pronger the wrong choice as Captain? why?

I feel he has lost his edge, I also feel he does not act like a captain, coming out of the dressing room last a captain does not make. but it's the dge issue that causes me th emost concern.

I picked Andy as his successor for one simple reason, He is a respected player who is capable of winning the Lady Bing, I think that Captaincy requires that type of player... apparently so does Pronger

[QuacksMeUp]

I voted that Pronger should stay captain. This is not our choice to make. It's a team decision.

[West of House]

I agree, it's a team decision. Very hard to say without being there.

Also, there's probably few things you could do to really screw up a team and a player than to take something like that away from them, methinks.

[MrsBevo]

Andy Mac and Lady Byng?! Going into the Dallas game Andy had 26 pim, including a 10 minute misconduct. That's not lady byng material. Mac was tied with Perry and only 1 behind May and 3 behind O'Donnell. Parros had 22 pim going into the game.

Captaincy isn't up to the fans. That is a team management decision and I don't see them stripping Pronger of the C.

[Todrick]

I voted that Pronger should stay captain. This is not our choice to make. It's a team decision.

you missed the point...

i didn't ask, if it was your choice should pronger wear the C?... i asked if you think pronger should wear the C

Andy Mac and Lady Byng?! Going into the Dallas game Andy had 26 pim, including a 10 minute misconduct. That's not lady byng material. Mac was tied with Perry and only 1 behind May and 3 behind O'Donnell. Parros had 22 pim going into the game.

Captaincy isn't up to the fans. That is a team management decision and I don't see them stripping Pronger of the C.

ok so it's exaggerating... but you can't deny that andy mac is thought of as a player with a much higher level of sportsmanship and fair play than Pronger

I agree, it's a team decision. Very hard to say without being there.

Also, there's probably few things you could do to really screw up a team and a player than to take something like that away from them, methinks.

aside from maybe giving it to them in the first place

[QuacksMeUp]

you missed the point...

i didn't ask, if it was your choice should pronger wear the C?... i asked if you think pronger should wear the C

To the point then. As long as the team wants Pronger to wear the "C", then he should. As that was not one of the choices, I voted "Yes, other...."

By the way, your second question will be skewed because you can't vote "yes" to the first question and leave the second question blank. The poll bots won't allow it.

[Todrick]

To the point then. As long as the team wants Pronger to wear the "C", then he should. As that was not one of the choices, I voted "Yes, other...."

By the way, your second question will be skewed because you can't vote "yes" to the first question and leave the second question blank. The poll bots won't allow it.

i thought that might be the case... but oh well, it does say "if no, then" so no harm in having eventualities

[ladiesandgentlemen]

As brought up in another thread... is Pronger the wrong choice as Captain? why?

I feel he has lost his edge, I also feel he does not act like a captain, coming out of the dressing room last a captain does not make. but it's the dge issue that causes me th emost concern.

I picked Andy as his successor for one simple reason, He is a respected player who is capable of winning the Lady Bing, I think that Captaincy requires that type of player... apparently so does Pronger

WHAT AN ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT THREAD!!!

We aren't even a fifth of the way into the season and you want to throw Chris Pronger under the bus... and then you suggest the fix is to put the "C" on the most underachieving guy on the team!

Andy McDonald, our first line center, doesn't even have as many points as Chris Pronger. He hasn't even been nominated for a Lady Bing trophy, much less won one. Pronger has won the league MVP (Hart) the same year he won the best defenseman award (Norris). Check NHL history and see who else has done that...

And did you ever happen to notice that we won the Stanley Cup last season with essentially the same team as the one that didn't even make the SCFs the season before with one notable addition? Chris Pronger put us over the top... PERIOD

[Todrick]

i would agree, if pronger was even remotely himself... he is not.

[ladiesandgentlemen]

i would agree, if pronger was even remotely himself... he is not.

So What?

We aren't even a fifth of the way into the season.

Sixteen games and you want to write off the guy that the coaches obviously recognize as the team's most significant player.

Why don't you start responding to FACTS that I confront you with and refute them with FACTS? As much as I like Andy McDonald, he has been way more of a bust so far than Chris Pronger, and I support my claims with FACTS.

Why don't you start with the most obvious: He has less points than Pronger...

[adamrice23]

I think we will just wait and see... I was surprised when he got the "C" in the first place but since he is the captain lets give it time and see what happens

[Dark Knight]

I honestly don't think our poor play has anything to do with Pronger being captain. It's a more endemic issue going back at least 2 seasons. In the past they've been able to pull together and be successful. We'll see what they can do this year.

[LightItUp4126]

He's the best thing on the Ducks, and we don't know what goes on in the locker room. I think that if the team thinks he deserves it, then he deserves it.

[alexxx]

Andy Mac and Lady Byng?! Going into the Dallas game Andy had 26 pim, including a 10 minute misconduct. That's not lady byng material.

Captaincy isn't up to the fans. That is a team management decision and I don't see them stripping Pronger of the C.

Yea Andy Mac is never getting a Lady Byng.
Pronger is definetly a great leader History has taught us that the lack of results is probably coming from the lack of urgency being set by the coaching staff for us to win. Last night if the coaches were firm enough with the ducks they could have at least taken like another 15 shots if not 2 goals at the least .

[Todrick]

So What?

We aren't even a fifth of the way into the season.

Sixteen games and you want to write off the guy that the coaches obviously recognize as the team's most significant player.

Why don't you start responding to FACTS that I confront you with and refute them with FACTS? As much as I like Andy McDonald, he has been way more of a bust so far than Chris Pronger, and I support my claims with FACTS.

Why don't you start with the most obvious: He has less points than Pronger...

Facts?

easy... pronger is playing like $#|t
he fumbles the puck
he avoids even touching opponents let alone finishing checks
he ignores the puck if it is more than 3 feet from him
and worst yet, he has yet to crush someone for no reason "just to keep them on their toes" <- his words not mine

this is not the guy who came to the team last year, the guy who helped bring a cup here... this is some sort of abomination calling himself Pronger.

I honestly don't think our poor play has anything to do with Pronger being captain. It's a more endemic issue going back at least 2 seasons. In the past they've been able to pull together and be successful. We'll see what they can do this year.

i never said it did...

but it doesn't help.
his lack of effort to even catch a puck leaving the zone does however set an example for the rest of the team.

I don't think that pronger is solely responsible for the teams failures, i think the team is, but who do you blame? who are the leaders? who is it that is supposed to set an example for the rest of the team?

He's the best thing on the Ducks.

we are clearly watching different games.

[alexxx]

Facts?

easy... pronger is playing like $#|t
he fumbles the puck
he avoids even touching opponents let alone finishing checks
he ignores the puck if it is more than 3 feet from him
and worst yet, he has yet to crush someone for no reason "just to keep them on their toes" <- his words not mine

this is not the guy who came to the team last year, the guy who helped bring a cup here... this is some sort of abomination calling himself Pronger.



i never said it did...

but it doesn't help.
his lack of effort to even catch a puck leaving the zone does however set an example for the rest of the team.

I don't think that pronger is solely responsible for the teams failures, i think the team is, but who do you blame? who are the leaders? who is it that is supposed to set an example for the rest of the team?



we are clearly watching different games.

Pronger looks a lot better now

[Todrick]

Pronger looks a lot better now

we are clearly watching different games.

[07ducksfan07]

impractical to suggest a captain change at this juncture in the season.

maybe someone should crush todrick for no reason just to keep him on his toes.

[Todrick]

if it was pronger i'd be happy to have him back playing HIS game.

[ladiesandgentlemen]

Facts?

easy... pronger is playing like $#|t
he fumbles the puck
he avoids even touching opponents let alone finishing checks
he ignores the puck if it is more than 3 feet from him
and worst yet, he has yet to crush someone for no reason "just to keep them on their toes" <- his words not mine

this is not the guy who came to the team last year, the guy who helped bring a cup here... this is some sort of abomination calling himself Pronger.

So why has he scored 40% more points as a defenseman than AndyMac, who is a first line center?

Your "facts" apply to McDonald every bit as much as they do to Pronger, and even more so since he is clearly less productive.

Not only do you take a dump by proposing to take the "C" off Pronger, then you step in it by suggesting to put it on McDonald.

This is so laughable, maybe I should take it for what it is: a JOKE

[Todrick]

fine... i'll take schneider then... does that solve your complaint.

i don't care who is captain, but it seems to me that the C is actually hurting prongers play.

[Sojourn]

As brought up in another thread... is Pronger the wrong choice as Captain? why?

I feel he has lost his edge, I also feel he does not act like a captain, coming out of the dressing room last a captain does not make. but it's the dge issue that causes me th emost concern.

I picked Andy as his successor for one simple reason, He is a respected player who is capable of winning the Lady Bing, I think that Captaincy requires that type of player... apparently so does Pronger

He's also never been in a leadership position in the NHL.

Ever.

fine... i'll take schneider then... does that solve your complaint.

i don't care who is captain, but it seems to me that the C is actually hurting prongers play.

Pronger was a Captain in St. Louis, and has always been a leader in the locker room and on the ice. Couldn't it be that you're just having a knee-jerk reaction because Anaheim (and Pronger) are struggling?

[ladiesandgentlemen]

fine... i'll take schneider then... does that solve your complaint.

i don't care who is captain, but it seems to me that the C is actually hurting prongers play.

Come on man, YOU are the one with the complaint. After all, this is your thread.

I just have a little suggestion...

[*ducks4cup*]

Schneids has more experience and he has worked with guys like Yzerman, Chelios, and Lidstrom back in Det. He's more qualified than Prongs.

[Sojourn]

Schneids has more experience and he has worked with guys like Yzerman, Chelios, and Lidstrom back in Det. He's more qualified than Prongs.

Er... Pronger also played with Al MacInnis, and was a Captain in St. Louis, and Schneider has only ever worn the A, and even then it was only for a few seasons, and never in Detroit. If you're trying to base the decision on a resume, Pronger would be chosen first.