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[Todrick]

I know there was a thread like this before, but Things have changed... so what do you think?

[safir8100]

Competitive today and tomorrow. Red Wings are doing it, so can we. We have a good bunch of quality youngsters who will carry us far for a long time

[DuckNewbie]

Choice #1 is a pipe dream. NOBODY can guarantee a cup for their team next year, or any year. You always build for long term success, then hope things align for a serious cup run.

[Dark Knight]

I think there's a forum for polls

[SacredCow]

I assume that "Be competitive long term, with a chance to win it all" means they will not win a Cup? Because if that option includes a Cup I'd much rather that option than either of the other ones. If, however, it does not include a Cup then I'll take #1.

[Todrick]

Choice #1 is a pipe dream. NOBODY can guarantee a cup for their team next year, or any year. You always build for long term success, then hope things align for a serious cup run.

Not true. Well, you can't ensure a cup, but you can try to better your chance for the coming season by mortgaging your future.

[QuacksMeUp]

When questions like these are put before us, just think "What would Bobby pick?" and the answer becomes abundantly clear.

[Todrick]

I assume that "Be competitive long term, with a chance to win it all" means they will not win a Cup? Because if that option includes a Cup I'd much rather that option than either of the other ones. If, however, it does not include a Cup then I'll take #1.

Option one... Lightning 2004... Go for the cup now. Even if it means we suck for a few years.

Option two... Rangers, Calgary, etc..... Ensure long term competitiveness, there is a chance to win it all, but clearly we wouldn't be the favorite each year.

Option three... Penguins... It's gonna suck, but the payoff could be great.

When questions like these are put before us, just think "What would Bobby pick?" and the answer becomes abundantly clear.

WWBD?


What Would Bobby Do?

[SacredCow]

Option one... Lightning 2004... Go for the cup now. Even if it means we suck for a few years.

Option two... Rangers, Calgary, etc..... Ensure long term competitiveness, there is a chance to win it all, but clearly we wouldn't be the favorite each year.

Option three... Penguins... It's gonna suck, but the payoff could be great.

Option #1 without a doubt.

[General:Moters]

Option #1 without a doubt.

From a fan's point of view, I can somewhat understand, yet I don't necessarily agree.

From a management point of view I can't understand it at all.

[ladiesandgentlemen]

From a management point of view I can't understand it at all.

If you were Bryan Murray, Darryl Sutter, or Doug Wilson (and possibly Glen Sather, among others) these days, you might understand it perfectly.

There comes a time in your tenure where it's the Cup or Bust (or at the very least, the finals).

[SacredCow]

From a fan's point of view, I can somewhat understand, yet I don't necessarily agree.

From a management point of view I can't understand it at all.

What's the point of being a GM, coach, player or owner? To win the Stanley Cup. If you are given three options and only one of them leads to a Stanley Cup you have to take that option.

[General:Moters]

What's the point of being a GM, coach, player or owner? To win the Stanley Cup. If you are given three options and only one of them leads to a Stanley Cup you have to take that option.

Well, yeah, but that's not the way I understood the whole scenario. There is no guaranteed cup in any of the three versions. It's basically asking what way you would go. The first version in that basically says use all your assets to improve your chances this year and not care all that much about the time after that. Still, there is no guaranteed cup. The second option has you keeping assets (young talent) in order to stay competetive in the long run instead of "cashing in" trying to improve your chances on one single run.

If this scenario really included a guaranteed cup in the first scenario and a guaranteed no-cup in the second, then this obviously wouldn't be a real question.

[Todrick]

What's the point of being a GM, coach, player or owner? To win the Stanley Cup. If you are given three options and only one of them leads to a Stanley Cup you have to take that option.

All three are ways to the cup.

and arguments can be made that each one has a better chance than the others... in the long run.

Maybe my team names in the descriptions confused you...

so

Option 1: Lightning 2004, Buffalo 2007
Option 2: Rangers, Calgary, etc.
Option 3: Penguins

Seems to me that fans would prefer option 1 or 2 while management would prefer 2 or 3.

Plus option 1 would likely eventually lead to option 3,
which in turn would lead to either option2 or option 1 based on roster moves/contracts... it's a cycle. But, it seems the Ducks could go any of these routes right now.

[QuackHead]

no matter where the team is at, this poll is the same....

move this, it's annoying.

[ducksfan95]

Be competive long term and a contender, it would make it alot easier to make the move for that cup then to rebuild or be good now and suck for awhile after

[Bryan]

be a competitive team day in day out

[DucksPT]

2nd one... Always being able to go for it
Hopefully getting there every now and then too

[thedux02]

Cup now. Better win the Cup one time in five years. Than playing five years in the finals and win nothing. A Cup Final lost hurts much more.