While details should come later about the specific teams, perhaps the more important concern is how it will effect the development of the Ducks’ prospects.
Ducks will spread their players
#1
Posted 27 July 2009 - 07:26 AM
While details should come later about the specific teams, perhaps the more important concern is how it will effect the development of the Ducks’ prospects.
#2
Posted 27 July 2009 - 08:09 AM
I hope Portland will take some of our kids. They were always good to them there.
We can wear the egg on our face with dignity.
I guess that would be scrambled.
#3
Posted 27 July 2009 - 08:11 AM
#4
Posted 27 July 2009 - 08:28 AM
What's that saying about looking before you leap?
In the haste to move our kids closer, it's blown up in our face.
And in my opinion, the timing is pretty bad. We sorely need some prospects to ripen and fill roster needs in '10-11.
#5
Posted 27 July 2009 - 08:31 AM
In the haste to move our kids closer, it's blown up in our face.
And in my opinion, the timing is pretty bad. We sorely need some prospects to ripen and fill roster needs in '10-11.
No doubt. But it's probably another Burke mess (although ownership may have had a hand in it as well) that Murray has had to clean up.
#6
Posted 27 July 2009 - 12:23 PM
#7
Posted 27 July 2009 - 12:48 PM
From the NHL.com article on last season's Stars prospects spread out through the AHL:
"The only problem we've really bumped into is that everybody else had their farm team and their own players," Stars co-general manager Les Jackson said. "But the guys who are good players earn their ice time, they're getting ample opportunity."
To avoid conflicts over playing time, Manitoba general manager Craig Heisinger, whose team is Vancouver's primary affiliate, only asked that the Stars send top-line players.
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Even with affiliations to get NHL prospects, minor league teams still have to supplement their rosters with free agents and other players.
The Stars' situation helps fill some of those gaps this season, which Jackson described as "a good win-win for both sides."
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During his time in Peoria, Conner had been one of the Rivermen - not a Star among Blues prospects. He was recalled by Dallas earlier this month.
"When you're working hard together, it doesn't take long to feel like that's your group," Peoria coach Davis Payne said. "We knew we have to treat them just like they're our own, and that's what we try to do."
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Against Grand Rapids, Wathier found himself going against fellow Stars prospect and good buddy Garrett Stafford in a very physical game.
"Every time I knew I was coming pretty hard on him, I would just say 'Heads up!' and he knew I was coming," Wathier said. "You've got to keep that respect sometimes through friendship, but you've got do a job on the ice."
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#8
Posted 27 July 2009 - 02:31 PM
#9
Posted 27 July 2009 - 08:23 PM
Exactly how are Iowa's financial problems Burke's fault?
#10
Posted 27 July 2009 - 08:26 PM
#11
Posted 28 July 2009 - 05:02 AM
#12
Posted 28 July 2009 - 04:12 PM
#13
Posted 28 July 2009 - 04:25 PM
One thing to keep in mind is that the ECHL has a salary cap of something around $12k per week, so they can't take on too many NHL prospects.
#14
Posted 28 July 2009 - 07:54 PM
I wouldn't bet on seeing Bailey in Bakersfield next season.
Contracted players only count as $500 towards the salary cap per player.
#15
Posted 29 July 2009 - 06:54 AM
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The Rampage, affiliate of the Phoenix Coyotes, will be the primary hub for recalling and assigning players during the season.
#16
Posted 30 July 2009 - 02:08 PM
#17
Posted 31 July 2009 - 04:41 AM
#18
Posted 27 August 2009 - 12:20 AM
"You want guys to be playing a lot so sometimes you decide between are they going to be in the American League and maybe not playing as much or sending them to (Bakersfield) where they will be playing more."
McNabb said the AHL picture remains a bit cloudy so it was impossible to say how many players could end up in Bakersfield but did say one would be a goaltender.
<link to article posted in Media Roundup>
#19
Posted 27 August 2009 - 11:55 AM
Option #1 - Play a lot of minutes in Bakersfield of the ECHL with primary attention from the coaches
Option #2 - Play fewer minutes in ??? of the AHL with less attention from the coaches
I prefer Option #1. I hope a lot of players get sent to Bakersfield and I hope the goalie that is sent is a good one. Better to be in the Ducks system, with Ducks approved coaches and playing the minutes that the Ducks want then to have them being treated as an outsider getting leftover minutes for some other team.
#20
Posted 27 August 2009 - 12:19 PM
same reason Balsillie can't just create an NHL team in Hamilton.
#21
Posted 27 August 2009 - 12:30 PM
Option #1 - Play a lot of minutes in Bakersfield of the ECHL with primary attention from the coaches
Option #2 - Play fewer minutes in ??? of the AHL with less attention from the coaches
I prefer Option #1. I hope a lot of players get sent to Bakersfield and I hope the goalie that is sent is a good one. Better to be in the Ducks system, with Ducks approved coaches and playing the minutes that the Ducks want then to have them being treated as an outsider getting leftover minutes for some other team.
I'm not sure what kind of relationship the Ducks have with Bakersfield but it's nothing like what they had with Portland and Iowa. For one they have no say over the coaching staff and thus no say over what style they coach. It's an affiliation and the players that get sent there play the system that's already in place which may or may not resemble the style instructed by Randy Carlyle. It's only beneficial sending borderline players there because they're the ones that will get dicked over playing for an AHL team that's not affiliated with us. The MacMillans, Miteras and Beleskys will get plenty of ice-time because they are good players. The Bots, Baileys and Bickels will not so we should expect them to be sent to Bakersfield.
It's not like the Ducks prefer this situation, they hate it. They absolutely want another AHL affiliate as soon as possible. Now owning their own franchise might seem to be the best choice but it may not make sense to the team financially. Teams that own their own AHL franchises have money to spend and have teams in areas that will turn a slight profit. Added a team out West will only service convenience to the Ducks. It's hard enough to get people out in this part of the world to watch the best hockey there is and it's damn near impossible to convince them to watch minor league hockey. I live near Ontario and let me tell you, the Reign aren't a hot ticket despite the amount of hockey fans out here and how good they were. I can't imagine many of the places you mentioned would be stronger draws regardless if it's a level higher. The Ducks don't even make money, how is a minor league team supposed to?
The situation is we need to just tough it out this season and find another affiliate next season. If they have to buy a dormant franchise and operate themselves they will but that won't be their first option otherwise they would just bought the Chops and kept things running this season. My guess is we'll provide Bakersfield with about 7-8 players, maybe ten at the most. Our better prospects like MacMillan, Belesky and Mitera will go to San Antonio and the rest will be spread out with no more than 2 or 3 to a team. Some people are freaking out that our kids won't see any ice time and that's crap. The teams they'll be sent to just won't have to sign an AHL free agent and they'll take their spot. Guys like Ajay Baines, Adrian Veideman and TJ Trevalyan saw plenty of ice-time with the Chops last year. Hell Baines was the captain. The only guys who are going to suffer are the ones being sent to Bakersfield who could probably make an AHL roster but these are kids who have a terrible chance of ever being Ducks so who cares?
#22
Posted 27 August 2009 - 04:08 PM
Your mostly correct with your assessment. The majority of the players we will get will most likely be bubble type players and not full fledged AHL guys. Our coach is pretty similar to Carlyle, he likes a hard checking physical style and is tough to play for (read, not a players coach)
#23
Posted 21 September 2009 - 02:08 PM
Found this in a Winnipeg paper:
Salcido cleared waivers Monday morning and was assigned to the Moose by the Anaheim Ducks.
(Ok....we knew that, but it's nice to know they're excited by it!)
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Boy, it would suck to be a lower-level Duck prospect, and have to "try out" for every team they tried to send you to.
#24
Posted 21 September 2009 - 02:54 PM
San Antonio Rampage
Matt Beleskey
Maxime Macenauer
Dan Sexton
MacGregor Sharp
Shawn Weller
Stu Bickel
Brett Festerling
JP Lavasseur
Timo Pielmeier
Manitoba Moose
Brian Salcido
Eric Regan
John Degray
Unknown
Bobby Bolt
Brennan Evans
No guarantee that any of these players will STAY where they are at the moment....And, of course some of the players in the Ducks camp will be sent *somewhere*.
If anyone has news on the Unknowns, or sees news of movement of any players, feel free to tack them on. Maybe we'll be able to keep a running tally of where-the-Duck-eggs-are.
Ideally, it would be nice if the Ducks webpage was detailed enough to keep us informed. But recent history says they won't be all that detailed.
#25
Posted 21 September 2009 - 03:22 PM
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