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#1 Todrick

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 07:45 AM

Can we ban newbies from starting new threads... maybe till they have 100 posts?

we had 3 Fire Carlyle threads started yesterday and I'm deathly afraid of the new influx of official board members ruining this board by turning it into the official board with all its clutter and crap.

I'm just thinking if we make them wait, maybe it will give them time to learn the difference between "Add Reply" and "New Topic"

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 08:47 AM

QUOTE (Todrick @ Oct 28 2009, 08:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can we ban newbies from starting new threads... maybe till they have 100 posts?

we had 3 Fire Carlyle threads started yesterday and I'm deathly afraid of the new influx of official board members ruining this board by turning it into the official board with all its clutter and crap.

I'm just thinking if we make them wait, maybe it will give them time to learn the difference between "Add Reply" and "New Topic"



Why should newbies to the board miss out on all the fun of their first reaming by the logical wrath of DK? biggrin.gif

The reason the official board members are migrating is because they need the structured, polite and excellent guidance of the Allducks mods and staff. Best in the message board business! (Is there an internet award for best board mods? - They would probably win hands down in the NHL category) clapping.gif

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 08:54 AM

I think it is do able. I would have to create a new user group and they they would get promoted to the regular 'Members' group after they hit a certain amount of posts.

It might create a new problem though. People might just start post whoring til they hit that 100 post mark.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 09:34 AM

I like the idea of the new user group as it could also outline some of the rules etc. I see the problem of the post padding but I'm not sure how to solve it hmm.gif

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 10:49 AM

I'm slightly hesitate about this idea as it could make new members feel that they aren't part of the wider community with the post restriction concept. So some new members may not have checked the board for other threads, there's people on here that do that from time to time regardless of when they joined.

There is always a slight wobbly finding your way about period when you join new boards. We've all been new at some point and I don't think it's fair to create a split in the level of members. I know I probably would have been less likely to participate at the start if this rule was in place.

I would rather not have to spend my time tidying up post spamming so someone can have the privilege of starting a thread. It not as if we spend all our time deleting duplication threads as it is. It's just something that crops up every so often however that's why we're here.

The ability to start a thread no matter what the topic should belong to all members IMHO.

Allducks is a wonderful site that makes everyone feel like they can join in, why change that?

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 11:07 AM

QUOTE (M T @ Oct 28 2009, 09:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it is do able. I would have to create a new user group and they they would get promoted to the regular 'Members' group after they hit a certain amount of posts.

It might create a new problem though. People might just start post whoring til they hit that 100 post mark.


Oh there is that...

I'd personally rather see lame "Me too" posts than lame "Me too" threads...

though neither would be ideal

QUOTE (Barmy Army @ Oct 28 2009, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So some new members may not have checked the board for other threads, there's people on here that do that from time to time regardless of when they joined.



It's not the "time to time" that's a problem.

Have you seen how big a mess the official boards are?

when i looked yesterday they had no less than 4 variations of fire Carlyle threads, all running concurrently.

QUOTE (Barmy Army @ Oct 28 2009, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The ability to start a thread no matter what the topic should belong to all members IMHO.

Allducks is a wonderful site that makes everyone feel like they can join in, why change that?



Valid point.

I was just suggesting it as I know the influx of new members who think this site runs like the official boards may have a noticeable impact on the amount of work required of our Mods...

Tryin to help ya out! wink.gif

(i've seen it done on other boards with varying levels of success)

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 11:07 AM

QUOTE (Todrick @ Oct 28 2009, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
then they are exactly the type of person this new rule will protect us from smile.gif


Jeez new members aren't contaminated rolleyes.gif Protection isn't needed and I'm sorry but if I was a new member and I had just read your post I would be a bit peeved at your broad generalisation.



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Posted 28 October 2009 - 11:08 AM

I totally edited my other post... sorry...

probably makes it more clear now

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 11:18 AM

QUOTE (Todrick @ Oct 28 2009, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Have you seen how big a mess the official boards are?

when i looked yesterday they had no less than 4 variations of fire Carlyle threads, all running concurrently.



No, because I don't visit it and have no plans to. We aren't that place and just because some members have left it doesn't mean this site will transform into a carbon copy. It hasn't happened before when we had people who swapped boards so why is it so different now?

Besides to me, that clearly suggested that the don't have a decent mod system if they have 4 separate threads wink.gif

You have suggested an idea, fair enough, you are entitled to your opinion and so I am. I just play here and try my best to make it a fun place for others to spend some time happydance.gif I was thinking about how I would have felt when I signed up to this board after leaving the cesspool that was the official board and to discover that if would only be allowed to half-heartedly join in with the chat.

Methinks we will have to agree to disagree Todrick biggrin.gif




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Posted 28 October 2009 - 11:46 AM

QUOTE (Barmy Army @ Oct 28 2009, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, because I don't visit it and have no plans to. We aren't that place and just because some members have left it doesn't mean this site will transform into a carbon copy. It hasn't happened before when we had people who swapped boards so why is it so different now? ...

This board isn't a carbon copy because we have some standards here which are not only enforced by the great staff, they are fairly well respected and followed by our membership.

I believe Todrick is merely suggesting a method to hold up a standard, and I think it's a good idea.

If people don't want to take the time to learn how things are done here and are so itchy to start a thread, there are many places they can join others just like them. And if they choose to spam to get around the post threshold standard, better everyone sees their real intentions and can block them so as not to have their time wasted.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 11:49 AM

QUOTE (ladiesandgentlemen @ Oct 28 2009, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This board isn't a carbon copy because we have some standards here which are not only enforced by the great staff, they are fairly well respected and followed by our membership.

I believe Todrick is merely suggesting a method to hold up a standard, and I think it's a good idea.

If people don't want to take the time to learn how things are done here and are so itchy to start a thread, there are many places they can join others just like them. And if they choose to spam to get around the post threshold standard, better everyone sees their real intentions and can block them so as not to have their time wasted.

I agree. Well said. This doesn't make AD any less welcoming than it already is nor does it create categories. It ensures we stay organized and save the mods some time mopping up biggrin.gif

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 12:08 PM

QUOTE (Dark Knight @ Oct 28 2009, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree. Well said. This doesn't make AD any less welcoming than it already is nor does it create categories. It ensures we stay organized and save the mods some time mopping up biggrin.gif


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Posted 28 October 2009 - 12:17 PM

QUOTE (QuacksMeUp @ Oct 28 2009, 01:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Posted 28 October 2009 - 12:51 PM

QUOTE (Dark Knight @ Oct 28 2009, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
nono.gif DTP is going to come after you! You'd better bag.gif


That's what I want to happen as an example of the difficulty the mods have mopping up around here. After all, newbies should get to know DTP as he is the resident bot and goalie girl dribble magnet!











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(and he's seriously late cleaning up my original mess!)

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 02:15 PM

Is there a way to make sure "Newbies" read the rules that AD has established before they are allowed to post?

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 02:24 PM

Reading, understanding and adhering are all different things. Following rules seems difficult for a lot of people.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 02:28 PM

QUOTE (QuacksMeUp @ Oct 28 2009, 01:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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(and he's seriously late cleaning up my original mess!)

Better late than never??



QUOTE (Reb @ Oct 28 2009, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is there a way to make sure "Newbies" read the rules that AD has established before they are allowed to post?

Whoa! Musketeer! Where in the world have you been hiding?

I highly doubt a majority of our members have read our board guidelines, and more highly doubt that we'll be able to guarantee newbies read them. I'm with Barmy that it could be a little onerous for newbies to have to get to 100 posts in order to start a topic. They can have new topic worthy things to post just as much as the rest of us. I hate spam and worthless posts a lot more than having to get out my mop and merge mod tools.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 02:37 PM

I agree with both you, DTP, and MrsB, but I was thinking that if they had to read them ONCE before they posted then they couldn't come back later and say, "Sorry, I didn't know."

I haven't been hiding exactly. I usually lurk everyday at least once. I just don't have much to add to the conversation anymore. Even with the WinterHawks, Portland isn't exactly a hotbed of hockey. Now IF I could afford to live down there ....

You don't realize how homesick I get for SoCal sometimes. This is Reb, roger wilco and out.

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 03:07 PM

QUOTE (Reb @ Oct 28 2009, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is Reb, roger wilco and out.

Reb I tried emailing you and it bounced. Would you please PM me your email address? And you always have something to add to the conversation, musketeer. All for one and one for all...

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 09:46 PM

QUOTE (Reb @ Oct 28 2009, 06:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I haven't been hiding exactly. I usually lurk everyday at least once. I just don't have much to add to the conversation anymore. Even with the WinterHawks, Portland isn't exactly a hotbed of hockey. Now IF I could afford to live down there ....

You don't realize how homesick I get for SoCal sometimes. This is Reb, roger wilco and out.

Absolutely, positively off topic, but I just want say...

I'VE MISSED YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!! hug.gif hug.gif hug.gif hug.gif

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 09:34 AM

Duckette, everytime I read your posts I feel pride in your accomplishments, whether on the ice or in the booth. Don't ask me why. Maybe it's the Norse in us. laugh.gif

DK, I sent you an email today that had a lot of pumpkin carvings along with the doggie model. Perhaps you can post it in the off topic section so everyone can enjoy. I'm sure DTP would appreciate it. You can pick my addy from there. Or maybe I'll PM you anyway. cool.gif

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 10:11 AM

QUOTE (Reb @ Oct 29 2009, 01:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Duckette, everytime I read your posts I feel pride in your accomplishments, whether on the ice or in the booth. Don't ask me why. Maybe it's the Norse in us. laugh.gif

DK, I sent you an email today that had a lot of pumpkin carvings along with the doggie model. Perhaps you can post it in the off topic section so everyone can enjoy. I'm sure DTP would appreciate it. You can pick my addy from there. Or maybe I'll PM you anyway. B)

happy.gif Aww! Thanks!!! I try! hug.gif Just don't disappear for so long, kay? smile.gif

And to get on topic (innocent.gif) I am kinda split on the idea. Then again, I was kinda scared to post a new topic so I didn't really venture out into that... I think if the Mods are ok with removing/merging threads as opposed to spam then it should stay as is. I mean, it could be found as discouraging for some members, but if they can't understand the thought process behind that rule then they most likely won't understand or appreciate the other rules, IMO.

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 10:38 AM

QUOTE (QuacksMeUp @ Oct 28 2009, 09:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why should newbies to the board miss out on all the fun of their first reaming by the logical wrath of DK? biggrin.gif

The reason the official board members are migrating is because they need the structured, polite and excellent guidance of the Allducks mods and staff. Best in the message board business! (Is there an internet award for best board mods? - They would probably win hands down in the NHL category) clapping.gif


Yeah the only reason i read the rules and guidelines was due to the wrath of DK. After one embarrassing post I decided to read up so he didnt come to attack again wink.gif

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 10:59 AM

Good ol' DK. biggrin.gif

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 11:08 AM

QUOTE (lvsprt @ Oct 29 2009, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good ol' DK. biggrin.gif

I think he's exaggerating the "wrath" part just a little bit wink.gif





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