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[CoreyPerry10]

What would you guys do?

[HockeyHeaven]

What would you guys do?

Make him the coach

And by that I mean player/coach...

[CoreyPerry10]

Personally i would trade him and look for our future... trade scotty for a 25 year old defender or so and a draft pick,. scotty has alot of value out in the market, hes pondering retirement lately so its the best for us as he can go to a serious cup contending team. It makes sense for us and for our future. we need to look for our future. after teemus gone what do we got?
Ryan,Getzlaf,Perry,Lupul, Nokelanien,Carter,Brown, mikkelson,wisnewski n more.
we need more second line scoring to be brought up in our system.
were getting older outside of our top RPG line.

[HockeyHeaven]

Personally i would trade him and look for our future...

Well, get your vote up there, so I'm not hanging out in the breeze all by myself.

[CoreyPerry10]

Well, get your vote up there, so I'm not hanging out in the breeze all by myself.

haha just did
i believe it makes sense...
than after he retires, we get him as coach

[20rules]

Personally i would trade him and look for our future...

I vote for the same thing. Trade him and look out for our future.

[HockeyHeaven]

Personally i would trade him and look for our future...

I don't think that is a bad idea, for the right return. Duncan Keith?

[RGS_Quack93]

You know about 5 games ago I was against trading him... Now Im not so sure. I guess it would also depend on if this is his absolute last year of if he wants to stick around another year.

Im still undecided but more open to the idea of a trade, it would be a shame to throw away Selanne and Neids potential last year away...

[Duckbill]

Trade Scotty and watch as the Pond gets emptier and emptier as the season goes by. Even if we are one of the weaker teams in the west clawing for just a sniff of a playoff spot Scott Niedermayer will be one of the few draws that we have. The guy isn't just a hall of famer, he's a hall of famer who has built a brand new part of his career that can stand on its own in Orange County. He's not a guy who made his name elsewhere and then just showed up here for a little while *COUGHFEDEROVCOUGH*

[CanardQC]

I don't think that is a bad idea, for the right return. Duncan Keith?

Won't happen. Maybe Barker, but definitely not Keith.

[20rules]

Trade Scotty and watch as the Pond gets emptier and emptier as the season goes by. Even if we are one of the weaker teams in the west clawing for just a sniff of a playoff spot Scott Niedermayer will be one of the few draws that we have. The guy isn't just a hall of famer, he's a hall of famer who has built a brand new part of his career that can stand on its own in Orange County. He's not a guy who made his name elsewhere and then just showed up here for a little while *COUGHFEDEROVCOUGH*

*ahem* It was NOT in Fedorov's power to stay in Anaheim. He was TRADED.
1. Burke traded him. Why? Salary dump. It happens. He got rid of all our Russians. No Bryz, Feds, Vish, & Rusty.
2. ummm so Scotty had made his name elsewhere in Nj but nobody is hating on him, so why hate on #91?
3. The whole team stunk that season..hmmm very much like this season. We could have The Great One and w/RC's system we'd still stink.
4. Scotty isn't the main draw for me to go to Ducks games. Go ahead and trade him so we can build on our future. If we wait too long he could pull another Farve and screw us over. If I were GM I'd be cautious on signing anyone who dared to sit out 1/2 a season the way Scotty and Teemu did. It alienates the other players and we lost Andy Mac b/c of that BS.
5.The Pond is empty b/c of the RECESSION. In '03-04 when they stunk up the place people still flocked (nice pun) to the Pond to support the team b/c they weren't losing their homes like they have been for the past 2 yrs.
ps Fedorov had the most pts of all the Ducks that season they tanked.

[Duckbill]

*ahem* It was NOT in Fedorov's power to stay in Anaheim. He was TRADED.
1. Burke traded him. Why? Salary dump. It happens. He got rid of all our Russians.

That is not my point. My point is that Scotty has played for the Ducks long enough and well enough that we as fans have been able to truly enjoy it. I mentioned Fedorov because he wasn't with us for very long, doesn't matter how or why he left. We didn't have Jari Kurri for very long either and perhaps I should have mentioned him.

No Bryz, Feds, Vish, & Rusty.

No Bryz?

Would you rather have kept Vish and Rusty than the defensemen that were brought in after 2006? I really liked those guys but you're bonkers if you think that we didn't improve dramatically with our completely revamped blue-line that, oh yeah, won us a Stanley Cup.

2. ummm so Scotty had made his name elsewhere in Nj but nobody is hating on him, so why hate on #91?

I'm not hating on him, just pointing out that he was a hall of fame player who wasn't here for very long. This is Scotty's fifth season with the Ducks and he is the best defenseman and best captain in our team's history even without all the accolades he won in New Jersey.

3. The whole team stunk that season..hmmm very much like this season. We could have The Great One and w/RC's system we'd still stink.

In that season we were in playoff contention at Christmastime, and fell off later. So in some ways that season was actually better

4. Scotty isn't the main draw for me to go to Ducks games. Go ahead and trade him so we can build on our future. If we wait too long he could pull another Farve and screw us over. If I were GM I'd be cautious on signing anyone who dared to sit out 1/2 a season the way Scotty and Teemu did. It alienates the other players and we lost Andy Mac b/c of that BS.

Well if we aren't contending he's going to be a huge draw for fans like me who will still come out to see the best players play to the best of their ability even when they aren't contending. Also, Scotty gives us the best chance to win games more so than any other player, I will always love my ducks, but I'm not going to shell out extra cash to attend more games outside of my ticket plan or buy more merchandise if we're not competitive.

5.The Pond is empty b/c of the RECESSION. In '03-04 when they stunk up the place people still flocked (nice pun) to the Pond to support the team b/c they weren't losing their homes like they have been for the past 2 yrs.
ps Fedorov had the most pts of all the Ducks that season they tanked.

You have got to be kidding me. You honestly don't think our attendance has anything to do with how lousy we have been? First of all a little history, in 2002 the Ducks finished in the basement of the league, we only finished ahead of Columbus and Nashville and they were basically expansion teams at that point. We drew 12,000 fans per game and were dead LAST in attendance that year during good economic times. The year you are talking about, 2003-2004, we were again among the teams with the lowest attendance drawing under 15,000 per game.

This year we are just over 15,000 per game in attendance. Last year we were just shy of 17,000. You are either completely ignorant or flat out lying if you think the Recession is causing all of our attendance problems.

And before you go off on some rant thinking that i'm wildly hating on Sergei Fedorov, yes I acknowledge that his 65 point season was good that year, but it was not what i'd call an incredible season worthy of all time recognition in team history. Scotty has been with us far longer than Fedorov or Kurri, who are arguably two of the most famous players who have ever worn our uniform.

[20rules]

That is not my point. My point is that Scotty has played for the Ducks long enough and well enough that we as fans have been able to truly enjoy it. I mentioned Fedorov because he wasn't with us for very long, doesn't matter how or why he left. We didn't have Jari Kurri for very long either and perhaps I should have mentioned him.

* Even though #91 wasn't here long there are a few who really enjoyed his stay w/us.



No Bryz?

Would you rather have kept Vish and Rusty than the defensemen that were brought in after 2006? I really liked those guys but you're bonkers if you think that we didn't improve dramatically with our completely revamped blue-line that, oh yeah, won us a Stanley Cup.

*I'd take those guys back in a <3 beat over some guys who claim to be D-men on this team right now. I never said I wanted them back instead of winning the SC. That's absurd.



I'm not hating on him, just pointing out that he was a hall of fame player who wasn't here for very long. This is Scotty's fifth season with the Ducks and he is the best defenseman and best captain in our team's history even without all the accolades he won in New Jersey.
*Well, perhaps I think your tone sounded less than complimentary. The COUGHFEDEROVCOUGH always comes across as degrading.


In that season we were in playoff contention at Christmastime, and fell off later. So in some ways that season was actually better
*Not by much! ps There's no crying in hockey! Suck it up man! It could be worse. Remember when we had that really horrid coach in mid90s? I won't even type his name it just makes me puke..lol



Well if we aren't contending he's going to be a huge draw for fans like me who will still come out to see the best players play to the best of their ability even when they aren't contending. Also, Scotty gives us the best chance to win games more so than any other player, I will always love my ducks, but I'm not going to shell out extra cash to attend more games outside of my ticket plan or buy more merchandise if we're not competitive.

*No argument there.




You have got to be kidding me. You honestly don't think our attendance has anything to do with how lousy we have been? First of all a little history, in 2002 the Ducks finished in the basement of the league, we only finished ahead of Columbus and Nashville and they were basically expansion teams at that point. We drew 12,000 fans per game and were dead LAST in attendance that year during good economic times. The year you are talking about, 2003-2004, we were again among the teams with the lowest attendance drawing under 15,000 per game.

*Yes, the bad play is a factor, but not the only factor. My friend lost her house in the fire last yr. So, no hockey games for her. Plus, this is CA. There is plenty to do besides go to a hockey game. The price of parking and tickets going up isn't helping matters.

This year we are just over 15,000 per game in attendance. Last year we were just shy of 17,000. You are either completely ignorant or flat out lying if you think the Recession is causing all of our attendance problems.

* I'm broke. If I actually had money I'd go to a game despite the sucky play. I just like hockey. So, ahem, I'm not lying. My college fees were increased by 30%. DMV fees were doubled.

And before you go off on some rant thinking that i'm wildly hating on Sergei Fedorov, yes I acknowledge that his 65 point season was good that year, but it was not what i'd call an incredible season worthy of all time recognition in team history. Scotty has been with us far longer than Fedorov or Kurri, who are arguably two of the most famous players who have ever worn our uniform.

*I never said it was his greatest season. I also do not care if someone on the team is uber famous like Scotty. My fave was Steve Rucchin.

[2forroughing]

I want to see #27 hanging in the rafters along side #8.

As far as our future goes, there is no better mentor for our younger D-men than Scotty. The oportunity for some of these guys to learn from him is highly valuable. Unless Scotty absolutely wants to be traded, I can't imagine management making that call.

[Duckbill]

* Even though #91 wasn't here long there are a few who really enjoyed his stay w/us.

That doesn't change the fact that he was not here long enough to establish himself as one of the best players for this franchise like Scotty has done. I enjoyed Fedorov too.

*I'd take those guys back in a <3 beat over some guys who claim to be D-men on this team right now. I never said I wanted them back instead of winning the SC. That's absurd.

You specifically criticized Burke for getting rid of all of our Russians. Well by getting rid of those Russian players we VASTLY improved to the point where our defense was the best in the league. I'd rather have the 05-06 blue line pairings too but if wishes were fishes i'd have the whole freakin' ocean. Of course this is a separate tangent on its own and has nothing to do with the fact that this team needs Niedermayer for more than just on ice performance.

*Not by much! ps There's no crying in hockey! Suck it up man! It could be worse. Remember when we had that really horrid coach in mid90s? I won't even type his name it just makes me puke..lol

I was attempting to be humorous, don't tell me to "suck it up". The rest of this statement I agree wholeheartedly with.

*Yes, the bad play is a factor, but not the only factor. My friend lost her house in the fire last yr. So, no hockey games for her. Plus, this is CA. There is plenty to do besides go to a hockey game. The price of parking and tickets going up isn't helping matters

No offense to your friend but that's unrelated to my point. Hers is a tough situation but in that situation you would be hard pressed to attend games even if the economy was doing better or the team was doing well. For people such as you and I who have seen our budgets shrink and our amount of spare cash dwindle we have to think twice before going to games.

Also, ticket prices were frozen this year for the Ducks. Parking should not have changed either, and if you go to games often enough you know where the inexpensive places to park are at withing short walking distance.

Casual fans, the people who won't go to games no matter what, are not likely to shell out their cash on an underperforming team, and even if they get inexpensive tickets they still have to navigate the freeways, find parking, and five days out of the week they have to do this after putting in a full day of work.

* I'm broke. If I actually had money I'd go to a game despite the sucky play. I just like hockey. So, ahem, I'm not lying. My college fees were increased by 30%. DMV fees were doubled.

Again, you aren't the only one feeling the pain on this. But your statement was that the recession is the ONLY cause of our poor attendance, and it's incorrect. You can look at this teams performance in recent years and tie it quite closely to performance and fan expectations. There are professional teams all over the country that continue to draw well despite the economy because they are winning.

Currently there are TEN NHL Franchises that are averaging a sell out for every game this season. Chicago, Toronto, Vancouver, Minnesota, Pittsburgh, San Jose, Montreal, Calgary, New York Rangers, Edmonton. Some of those places are devoted hockey markets and will perform well regardless, some of those places are coming off of great seasons, and some of those places just have extremely talented players people are willing to pay to go see play.

Notice one name in particular that stands out? The fans up in San Jose are still going to games up there despite being in a smaller hockey market because they have winning expectations. If you think San Jose hasn't gone trhough tough times like Orange County has, i'd like to see you prove that.

[20rules]

That doesn't change the fact that he was not here long enough to establish himself as one of the best players for this franchise like Scotty has done. I enjoyed Fedorov too.

*** I never said Fedorov was established here. I simply stated that I enjoyed his stay here.


You specifically criticized Burke for getting rid of all of our Russians. Well by getting rid of those Russian players we VASTLY improved to the point where our defense was the best in the league. I'd rather have the 05-06 blue line pairings too but if wishes were fishes i'd have the whole freakin' ocean. Of course this is a separate tangent on its own and has nothing to do with the fact that this team needs Niedermayer for more than just on ice performance.
*** I agree and disagree. I agree on the wishing part.
I disagree that this team needs Niedermayer beyond this season. I think that we should trade him and get better players. I love/hate Burke for having the shrewdness of trading famous or vets for people to improve the team. The team comes first, not the player.

I'm just wishing for horsies and lollipops (insert horsie w/lolliop smiley here) for wishing we had better D.


I was attempting to be humorous, don't tell me to "suck it up". The rest of this statement I agree wholeheartedly with.
** okey dokey
btw I was trying to be funny but you didn't get it..maybe we should start using winky faces

No offense to your friend but that's unrelated to my point. Hers is a tough situation but in that situation you would be hard pressed to attend games even if the economy was doing better or the team was doing well. For people such as you and I who have seen our budgets shrink and our amount of spare cash dwindle we have to think twice before going to games.
** I can't afford to go to any games this year. Period. That's all I care to say about the matter.

Also, ticket prices were frozen this year for the Ducks. Parking should not have changed either, and if you go to games often enough you know where the inexpensive places to park are at withing short walking distance.
*** I went to 2 games last season. Actually, no I've never heard of these places to park within walking distance. How far away are they? Mind you, I don't enjoy walking alone at night esp. unarmed.

Casual fans, the people who won't go to games no matter what, are not likely to shell out their cash on an underperforming team, and even if they get inexpensive tickets they still have to navigate the freeways, find parking, and five days out of the week they have to do this after putting in a full day of work.
*** True


Again, you aren't the only one feeling the pain on this. But your statement was that the recession is the ONLY cause of our poor attendance, and it's incorrect. You can look at this teams performance in recent years and tie it quite closely to performance and fan expectations. There are professional teams all over the country that continue to draw well despite the economy because they are winning.

** I never said it was the ONLY reason. In my original post on #5 the word only is NOT IN THERE. If you inferre it was..well ..too bad. It is a big factor though. *sigh* 10.2% unemployment is rough. It also seems to me that people [not you] like to argue that the economy is not having ANY effect on attendance. Even when the Ducks sucked I went to games IF I could afford to go. In fact I went to 12 games the season we had #91 and the team stank up the ice.

Currently there are TEN NHL Franchises that are averaging a sell out for every game this season. Chicago, Toronto, Vancouver, Minnesota, Pittsburgh, San Jose, Montreal, Calgary, New York Rangers, Edmonton. Some of those places are devoted hockey markets and will perform well regardless, some of those places are coming off of great seasons, and some of those places just have extremely talented players people are willing to pay to go see play.
***Good for them. I'm glad somebody has money to spend.

Notice one name in particular that stands out? The fans up in San Jose are still going to games up there despite being in a smaller hockey market because they have winning expectations. If you think San Jose hasn't gone trhough tough times like Orange County has, i'd like to see you prove that.

**I never once said SJ has never gone through tough times. That's silly to even bring it up.

[20rules]

Well, get your vote up there, so I'm not hanging out in the breeze all by myself.

Apparently we're going to be the Infamous Nine

[Duckbill]

I never said Fedorov was established here. I simply stated that I enjoyed his stay here.

Then why did you even bother making a big fuss when I brought up Fedorov as an example of a player who was very famous but didn't do much here in Anaheim?

I disagree that this team needs Niedermayer beyond this season. I think that we should trade him and get better players.

First of all I never said we needed Neidermayer beyond this season, I said we need him right NOW. Draft picks and prospects will not put butts in the seats nor are they even guaranteed to work out. I'd rather have the guaranteed benefits now. Especially wqhen you consider that Scotty is likely to retire soon and that any team picking him up would either be giving up a LOT to give us a fair deal, or we would let ourselves get hosed to try and get anything we could before his contract runs out. I've already made my point about how this team needs to win as much as possible in order to be better financially and Scott Niedermayer gives us the best chance to win.

I love/hate Burke for having the shrewdness of trading famous or vets for people to improve the team. The team comes first, not the player.

There are reasons to hate Brian Burke, improving our defense by getting rid of guys or letting go of guys we didn't need anymore is definitely not one of them. Salei and Vishnevski left via free agency and we really didn't need to spend the money on two guys who weren't producing a lot of points. We traded Carney to make room for O'Donnell. Every defenseman on our 07 championship team was a Burke transaction.

*** I went to 2 games last season. Actually, no I've never heard of these places to park within walking distance. How far away are they? Mind you, I don't enjoy walking alone at night esp. unarmed.

Depends on your route to the stadiu, there are lots of people that either park near the car dealerships off of Ball Road (with some free spaces if you get there early enough) or there are a few $5 spaces off of Struck road near the intersection of Katella and Main near the Anaheim/Orange border. There are also restaurants off of Katella in that area that will let you park free furing games if you go there to eat. Lots of people go there so you're never truly alone for the most part, although having a friend is nice.

I never said it was the ONLY reason. In my original post on #5 the word only is NOT IN THERE. If you inferre it was..well ..too bad.

Your counter to my point that the Ducks' poor play was driving away fans was "The Pond is empty b/c of the RECESSION." You left no room for anything else in your statement in your attempt to counter my point.

It is a big factor though. *sigh* 10.2% unemployment is rough. It also seems to me that people [not you] like to argue that the economy is not having ANY effect on attendance. Even when the Ducks sucked I went to games IF I could afford to go. In fact I went to 12 games the season we had #91 and the team stank up the ice.

I went to 15. You and I are not the kind of fans that are going to stop going if the team isn't very good, but the casual fan that the Ducks need to attract is most certainly going to.

I never once said SJ has never gone through tough times. That's silly to even bring it up.

It's like you're not even reading. I brought up San Jose because they are similar market to us in that they are a warm weather market with a smaller fanbase that has also suffered through tough economic times, yet they are averaging a sell out every game this year because they have a very good team expected to compete for the cup. It is part of my point about how a team that wins games can overcome the economy and bring in fans.

[20rules]

Then why did you even bother making a big fuss when I brought up Fedorov as an example of a player who was very famous but didn't do much here in Anaheim?

*Let's just drop it like a hot potato. I'm very biased when it comes to #91... lol



First of all I never said we needed Neidermayer beyond this season, I said we need him right NOW. Draft picks and prospects will not put butts in the seats nor are they even guaranteed to work out. I'd rather have the guaranteed benefits now. Especially wqhen you consider that Scotty is likely to retire soon and that any team picking him up would either be giving up a LOT to give us a fair deal, or we would let ourselves get hosed to try and get anything we could before his contract runs out. I've already made my point about how this team needs to win as much as possible in order to be better financially and Scott Niedermayer gives us the best chance to win.
***So, do we trade him before trade deadline, or take our chances? If we wait we might get hosed. What would you do?


There are reasons to hate Brian Burke, improving our defense by getting rid of guys or letting go of guys we didn't need anymore is definitely not one of them. Salei and Vishnevski left via free agency and we really didn't need to spend the money on two guys who weren't producing a lot of points. We traded Carney to make room for O'Donnell. Every defenseman on our 07 championship team was a Burke transaction.
*** ok no argument there.
I sure don't like the mess he left us in to go to TO. THAT is my reason for not liking him.


Depends on your route to the stadiu, there are lots of people that either park near the car dealerships off of Ball Road (with some free spaces if you get there early enough) or there are a few $5 spaces off of Struck road near the intersection of Katella and Main near the Anaheim/Orange border. There are also restaurants off of Katella in that area that will let you park free furing games if you go there to eat. Lots of people go there so you're never truly alone for the most part, although having a friend is nice.

***Thanks for the info.

Your counter to my point that the Ducks' poor play was driving away fans was "The Pond is empty b/c of the RECESSION." You left no room for anything else in your statement in your attempt to counter my point.
***Well, I've been mostly agreeing w/you on all YOUR pts. So, why be such a nitpicker on mine? Are you a lawyer? And why does it HAVE to be either or? It is BOTH/AND.

Here's an example. The lower attendance is due to the poor play, economy, and fairweather fans of CA.
Also, one thing that IS possible is that some people are going to more games of other sports. Plus, maybe some are peeved w/the new NHL and piss poor reffing and such.





I went to 15. You and I are not the kind of fans that are going to stop going if the team isn't very good, but the casual fan that the Ducks need to attract is most certainly going to.
***Very true. But, that is the danger of having a team in CA. If this was Detroit the casuals would still be going since there is not much to do from what I've heard.



It's like you're not even reading. I brought up San Jose because they are similar market to us in that they are a warm weather market with a smaller fanbase that has also suffered through tough economic times, yet they are averaging a sell out every game this year because they have a very good team expected to compete for the cup. It is part of my point about how a team that wins games can overcome the economy and bring in fans.

*** I read just fine. Thank you. Yes, SJ IS doing well. Another pt is perhaps some these fans ARE spending beyond their means. WHICH IS PARTLY HOW THE COUNTRY GOT ITSELF INTO THIS MESS. They also don't alienate their fanbase the way the Ducks management has done. I believe that's another reason people are not going to games. There is one person in particular who makes awesome posters, [not me] but isn't allowed to put them on the wall now, yet there is still catsup and dried nacho cheese on the wall and some seats.

ps Happy Turkey Day

[ducksfan13]

I want to see #27 hanging in the rafters along side #8.

As far as our future goes, there is no better mentor for our younger D-men than Scotty. The oportunity for some of these guys to learn from him is highly valuable. Unless Scotty absolutely wants to be traded, I can't imagine management making that call.

i dont see them retiring number 27 because he spent the majority of his career with the devils

[Davison]

were not that far off the last playoff spot in points

so i think this season is still salvageble

IF they play like they did in the 3rd of the stars game

EVERY GAME
ALL GAME LONG

[rollingdux]

were not that far off the last playoff spot in points

so i think this season is still salvageble

IF they play like they did in the 3rd of the stars game

EVERY GAME
ALL GAME LONG

[Duckbill]

i dont see them retiring number 27 because he spent the majority of his career with the devils

There are six players in NHL history with their numbers retired by two teams: Bobby Hull, Gordie Howe, Wayne Gretzky (leaguewide), Ray Bourque, Mark Messier, and Patrick Roy. Retiring his number in Anaheim after allowing New Jersey the honor of doing it first would be a proper tribute to one of the game's all time greatest players. Since there is precedent for having a number retired in multiple cities, I don't see why the Ducks should be disinclined to retire #27 if the team feels that his contributions since 2005 are worthy of such an honor.

EDIT:

Speaking of those players who had their number retired by a second team. Howe only played three seasons with the Whalers, Bourque played in just TWO seasons with Colorado, Messier had four with the Rangers. Scotty's lengthy prior stint in New Jersey doesn't change his contributions to the club, and his five years with the Ducks were more than three other Hall of Famers who had numbers retired by a second team.

While I appreciate where people are coming from when they say New Jersey should be the only team allowed to retire #27, there is precedent and if you truly think as I do that Scotty is one of the all time greats then having two teams retire his number rightfully puts him very exclusive company.

[rollingdux]

I believe the ducks organization will definately consider retiring scotty's number once he decides to hang up his skates. He's has impacted this team so much during his time here. I personally think his number will be retired after the devils do.

[DUX714]

There are six players in NHL history with their numbers retired by two teams: Bobby Hull, Gordie Howe, Wayne Gretzky (leaguewide), Ray Bourque, Mark Messier, and Patrick Roy. Retiring his number in Anaheim after allowing New Jersey the honor of doing it first would be a proper tribute to one of the game's all time greatest players. Since there is precedent for having a number retired in multiple cities, I don't see why the Ducks should be disinclined to retire #27 if the team feels that his contributions since 2005 are worthy of such an honor.

EDIT:

Speaking of those players who had their number retired by a second team. Howe only played three seasons with the Whalers, Bourque played in just TWO seasons with Colorado, Messier had four with the Rangers. Scotty's lengthy prior stint in New Jersey doesn't change his contributions to the club, and his five years with the Ducks were more than three other Hall of Famers who had numbers retired by a second team.

While I appreciate where people are coming from when they say New Jersey should be the only team allowed to retire #27, there is precedent and if you truly think as I do that Scotty is one of the all time greats then having two teams retire his number rightfully puts him very exclusive company.

I know it's not hockey but the Angels have retired 2 numbers (not including Jackie Robinson) that have been retired by other teams. Rod Carew ( Twins) and Nolan Ryan (retired also by Houston & Texas). Yeah.. Nolan Ryan had his number retired by 3 teams. I guess when you play 26 years it could happen. lol