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[Rooch20]

I know that for instance, the 2003 draft was considered one of the deepest in NHL history but that was only after the players became perennial NHL players like Getzlaf, Richards, and Phaneuf. I also heard that the 1999 draft didn't produce a lot of quality NHL players despite it being considered a deep draft. I'm just wondering how scouts and draft experts determine the depth and quality of a certain year's draft talent. What is it based on?

[Getzlaf_15]

They wait a handful of years and see who's developed. I remember reading a report on the 2003 draft that said Getz would be a decent-solid third liner. I'm sure they formulate an opinion at the time, but clearly they re-evaluate after say 5 years or so.

[ZTHER]

Exactly. You have to give each class time.

We've been spoiled with amazing draft classes of late... a lot of NHL ready and near-ready players. This draft, not so much... but it could surprise down the road (or it could bust).

[DucksFan39]

once again zther i dont know where you get your info on this draft to call to say its not going to be good? i've read very little from any reputable sources that the talent is lacking, 2011 is considered the worst draft since 98

[Koffein]

They wait a handful of years and see who's developed. I remember reading a report on the 2003 draft that said Getz would be a decent-solid third liner. I'm sure they formulate an opinion at the time, but clearly they re-evaluate after say 5 years or so.

Getzlaf was highly regarded in 03 and fell to us due to character issues, and the 03 draft was really hyped up back then as well. There are always reports trying to contradict what most agree on, like some source claiming Getz had the upside of a 3rd liner or zther saying that the 2010 draft not being a deep one. This year is going to have a crazy first round though, that's for sure.

[5MinuteMajor]

I know that for instance, the 2003 draft was considered one of the deepest in NHL history but that was only after the players became perennial NHL players like Getzlaf, Richards, and Phaneuf. I also heard that the 1999 draft didn't produce a lot of quality NHL players despite it being considered a deep draft. I'm just wondering how scouts and draft experts determine the depth and quality of a certain year's draft talent. What is it based on?

This year's draft looks pretty weak compared to the talent-deep drafts of 2008 and 09. Hall, Seguin, and Fowler seem to be the big 3. There's a guy named Charlie Coyle from the Eastern Junior Hockey League who looks pretty good, he is a defenseman who committed to Boston College. The Ducks need defense right now. We need to build from the defense out and stock up depth in our system.

[Getzlaf_15]

Getzlaf was highly regarded in 03 and fell to us due to character issues, and the 03 draft was really hyped up back then as well. There are always reports trying to contradict what most agree on, like some source claiming Getz had the upside of a 3rd liner or zther saying that the 2010 draft not being a deep one. This year is going to have a crazy first round though, that's for sure.

Two E.J. Hradek articles:

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[Rooch20]

This year's draft looks pretty weak compared to the talent-deep drafts of 2008 and 09. Hall, Seguin, and Fowler seem to be the big 3. There's a guy named Charlie Coyle from the Eastern Junior Hockey League who looks pretty good, he is a defenseman who committed to Boston College. The Ducks need defense right now. We need to build from the defense out and stock up depth in our system.

We have an up-and-coming mobile defense in Gardiner, Sbisa, Mitera, and Vatanen with Sbisa being the most NHL ready at this moment but I do agree with you partially about this team needing a defenseman that's 6'3 or taller. So far, Mark Mitera is perhaps the only d-man in our farm system strong enough to clear the crease.

[paul4587]

Two E.J. Hradek articles:

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Wow, he made some terrible predictions with regards to how good most of those guys would be. I can see why he's a journalist and not a pro scout or GM.

[Getzlaf_15]

Yeah, I still like listening to him though.

[TroyLoney]

Two E.J. Hradek articles:

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Fantastic links!

That shows that we should all take draft prognostications with a huge grain of salt because, for the most part, nobody has any idea what an 18-year old will do in the NHL in 5+ years.

[Getzlaf_15]

Fantastic links!

Gracias.

[Just Duckie]

Two E.J. Hradek articles:

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That's funny how off Hradek was on his analysis and how he wasn't crazy about the Ducks picking the twins. To be honest, I heard more about Getzlaf than Perry and thought the Ducks were looking at Zach Parise, so I was disappointed when the Devils traded up to take Parise (that darn Lou Lamoriello got the best of the Ducks twice in less than two weeks, or so I thought back then!). Of course I'm more than happy now that Getzlaf fell to 19th and Ducks got him, although Parise would still be a great player to have too.

Chances are unless you have generational talents like Ovechkin, Crosby or very top-end talent, drafting can be a gamble. Even top-end talents can be a bust (Alexander Daigle).

[DucksFan39]

We have an up-and-coming mobile defense in Gardiner, Sbisa, Mitera, and Vatanen with Sbisa being the most NHL ready at this moment but I do agree with you partially about this team needing a defenseman that's 6'3 or taller. So far, Mark Mitera is perhaps the only d-man in our farm system strong enough to clear the crease.

matt clark.

[Rooch20]

I think Matt Clark is more of a punisher than a crease clearer. Anyways, I think this proves my theory about drafts. I think people may see this as a top-heavy draft year but we'll see what happens. You never know, it might turn out to be the best draft year since 2003 or it can turn out to be as bad as the 1999 draft crop. I guess draft picks are what they are, just projections of potential. Unless these prospects actually come into their own in the NHL, they are just prospects.

[Getzlaf_15]

Clearing the crease does involve dishing out a certain amount of punishment.

[Duckscrazy]

Anybody think its a little ironic that Hradek said getzy would be a 3rd liner and Getzlaf_15 is a third liner on his account.

[Getzlaf_15]

Anybody think its a little ironic that Hradek said getzy would be a 3rd liner and Getzlaf_15 is a third liner on his account.

Haha I'm working my way up!