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#26 Sojourn

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Posted 28 November 2010 - 12:34 AM

QUOTE (Captain Quack @ Nov 27 2010, 08:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Only ended up with 2 goals and 1 assist actually. BUT Schultz went and had a hat trick tonight, and Gardiner added 3 assists. They're really tearing it up on the badgers backend.


I'm not trying to knock Schultz, but Gardiner is the more impressive to me because of his complete game. He looks like he could be an all-around stud, if his game can translate to the NHL level. That's the ideal scenario, but even if that doesn't happen he could end up a good top 4 guy for us. I've been very impressed with Schultz this season, but from what I've seen he has a bit of a niche game as a PP specialist.

Don't get me wrong, I'm loving that both of them are doing well. It's just Schultz isn't giving me the warm fuzzies for Anaheim's future the way Gardiner is. When I think ahead to what might be, I have to wonder if Schultz is going to have a future in the NHL with Anaheim. I think it's questionable enough that Fowler, Gardiner, and Sbisa end up playing for Anaheim's top 4. Adding another young defenseman like Schultz seems really unlikely.

We know that Anaheim is going to end up moving some of these defensemen at some point. Fowler, Sbisa, Gardiner, Clark, Mitera(if he ever gets back to the level he needs to be), Vatanen, Schultz, Newton... it's a very nice list, but I expect Anaheim to start trimming it. Schultz is one of those that I expect to see as a casualty at some point.

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Posted 28 November 2010 - 03:36 AM

Gardiner to me is like Dan Boyle or Brent Burns. Great skater strong two way guy can move the puck effectively and make offense out of nothing, while also being able to defend his zone, maybe Joni Pitkanen is an accurate description

Schultz is a skinny offensive dynamo kinda like JM Liles but bigger. he looks like he could be a great PP weapon, which the ducks now seem to have alot of, he may be a good trade candidate

Schultz was another 2008 pick that looks really good right now.

Gardiner could be in the NHL by years end no question about it, and Wisconsin must be credited for developing him right

the future of the defense looks strong, things can change but the ducks have 3 elite d prospects in Fowler/Sbisa/Gardiner and atleast 2 very strong secondary offensive guys like Vatanen and Schultz so even if Mitera ends up a bust it's not a huge blow anymore

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Posted 28 November 2010 - 02:24 PM

Seeing this thread bumped to the top got me thinking. Don't know if this was discussed at the time....

But it seems that the Gardiner discision on turning pro or not came very late in the off season. I wonder if "the plan" was for him to turn pro, and be "the defensive project" for the year. But when Fowler got drafted, maybe HE became the logical choice for that slot? Let Gardiner mature in college, be "the guy" in Wisconsin, and get Fowler out of Juniors where he might not learn as much.

Just a thought....

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Posted 28 November 2010 - 06:54 PM

QUOTE (Sojourn @ Nov 28 2010, 12:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We know that Anaheim is going to end up moving some of these defensemen at some point. Fowler, Sbisa, Gardiner, Clark, Mitera(if he ever gets back to the level he needs to be), Vatanen, Schultz, Newton... it's a very nice list, but I expect Anaheim to start trimming it. Schultz is one of those that I expect to see as a casualty at some point.

All I know is that those first two are locks to be on the team...I strongly doubt they will be traded any time soon. smile.gif

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Posted 28 November 2010 - 07:46 PM

6 Justin Schultz GP 16 9 10 19 +8
19 Jake Gardiner GP 16 4 14 18 +11

These are the two's stats I believe they are up to date. Looks awesome because last year's stats were
2009-10 Justin Shultz GP 28 2 14 16
2009-10 Jake Gardiner GP 28 4 5 9
Hopefully they continue at their present level or higher.

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 08:38 PM

QUOTE (mighty all the way @ Nov 28 2010, 07:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
6 Justin Schultz GP 16 9 10 19 +8
19 Jake Gardiner GP 16 4 14 18 +11

These are the two's stats I believe they are up to date. Looks awesome because last year's stats were
2009-10 Justin Shultz GP 28 2 14 16
2009-10 Jake Gardiner GP 28 4 5 9
Hopefully they continue at their present level or higher.


Stats really didn't tell the story with Gardiner last season. Wisconsin was playing him as a shutdown defenseman, with less offensive responsibilities. The Badgers had a very deep blue line, and Gardiner was a bit of a casualty of that. Statistically, at least, because he was still an important player for them. Don't forget that last season he was invited to play for Team USA in the WJC, and he won a Gold with them, also as a shutdown defenseman.




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