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[Marshy]

Who was the most under rated player to have played for the Anaheim Ducks that had a significant contribution to the team? I am not talking about with any other team in his career but rather just his time when he was with the Ducks.

[Kenny]

Todd Marchant. How many times have we seen this guy on the ice when a GWG is scored? And then there is stuff like this...

In triple overtime. I remember my family was mad because it was a Sunday morning(soon turned to afternoon), and I was watching hockey for about five hours.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF6Gx0owdc8
and
Odd goal, he made it look easy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A0MlA-LJYc

Yet all you can find on youtube, is those two goals (and some other big goal for some other unimportant team ), and then every big hitter in the league laying into him (who I affectionately call the red headed stranger).

[DucksFan39]

Carney

[ahtikullervo]

Antti Aalto

[M T]

Antti Aalto

LOL

Steve Thomas gets my vote.

[HillerGirl]

by the fans or by the media outside of Ducks organization... cause the whole team at times is largely underrated...
take the last year's POs for example... how many sweeps by Sharks were predicted? or pitiful 4-1's?

i say Sami is the most underrated... the Selke that year was his, was supposed to be his, he got robbed.

i don't think that guys like T-Bone or Brown are underrated. they are not supposed to be anyone to the outsiders, but the fans and the guys on both sides know, see and respect the energy, heart and dedication. you got this kind of guys on each team. do i know them by name or face on any other team? no, not really (well maybe on Chicago team). but i see them in the games when they play the Ducks (or occasionally when i watch Hawks or Nuckies game them too )
they are the bottom of an iceberg of a team, supporting the shiny, tiny tip.
dependable hard working horses
invisible force. the term "underrate" doesn't apply to them... you can see it or not see it, you can respect or not respect it.. at least that's how i see it

[wildwing94]

Steve Rucchin

[Todrick]

Drew Miller


Yeah, I know... "shocker"

[fourczech]

Travis Moen

[ZTHER]

Rob Niedermayer

by the fans or by the media outside of Ducks organization... cause the whole team at times is largely underrated...
take the last year's POs for example... how many sweeps by Sharks were predicted? or pitiful 4-1's?

i say Sami is the most underrated... the Selke that year was his, was supposed to be his, he got robbed.

i don't think that guys like T-Bone or Brown are underrated. they are not supposed to be anyone to the outsiders, but the fans and the guys on both sides know, see and respect the energy, heart and dedication. you got this kind of guys on each team. do i know them by name or face on any other team? no, not really (well maybe on Chicago team). but i see them in the games when they play the Ducks (or occasionally when i watch Hawks or Nuckies game them too )
they are the bottom of an iceberg of a team, supporting the shiny, tiny tip.
dependable hard working horses
invisible force. the term "underrate" doesn't apply to them... you can see it or not see it, you can respect or not respect it.. at least that's how i see it

Nobody ever had a harsh word for Pahlsson... he had the respect of the fans and players alike. I think he got his due... certainly he flew under the radar of the casual NHL fan, but Ducks fans almost loved him universally.

Agree w/ you on guys like Brown. They don't have enough impact to really be under rated.

[anaheim15]

Marchant

[QuackHead]

I've noticed all three of these guys mentioned so far. Moen, Rob N. and sami. I think individually these guys were underrated but together, on that checking line, it was well known how good they were.

[TroyLoney]

Good question, and one that's going to have a different answer for everyone. I would say it's either Mike Leclerc, Andy McDonald or Adam Oates. I don't think we realized how important Andy McDonald was to this team until after we traded him and saw how hard it was to replace him. Leclerc did a lot of the things you need to do to be successful and he paid a price, physically, for it. Adam Oates was a wizard in the faceoff circle and at passing and he was a big part of why that team made it to the Stanley Cup Finals.

[jigglypuff]

Joe Sacco

[JUStheDUCKS]

Oates!
He was a huge part in 03. He was settign up Kariya and Sykora left and right!

[HillerGirl]

Nobody ever had a harsh word for Pahlsson... he had the respect of the fans and players alike. I think he got his due... certainly he flew under the radar of the casual NHL fan, but Ducks fans almost loved him universally.

that's the thing, we all know and love our Ducks. but i was talking about the league.
i opened a bank account few weeks ago and the guy was a hawks fan but he drooled over my Teemu-jersey-purse and joked that Ducks just traded Hiller (it was few days after the trade brought us Hillier). i have no idea if this guy is a good example as he used to intern for the hawks and from the looks of it he is a die hard hockey fan first and then a Hawks fan. and he follows the news pretty tightly. but i'm not sure that the guys like him or maybe guys a bit less involved knew/know of Pahlsson's contribution to that Cup. Chicago knows of Sami now, but mainly as a rental player recovering after mono... when i was watching Chi games with Pahlsson still on the roster all the commentators said was that he got the Cup with the Ducks some time ago. and bandwagonners and "tidal fans" know of the players only what they are told during the game. and Chicago is now the team that is 3rd among "knowing Sami the best"

that's why i was questioning the thread name.. underrated by fans or by the league and/or fans of other teams.
cause he certainly was loved here in Anaheim and there was no question ever how important his role and the whole line's role was during the Cup run, but by the league standards... in his case IMO anything less than a Selke is underrating the guy.
i still remember the jabbing between Sens fans right before the Finals. how they were boasting that Pizza line would demolish Ducks, to our "wait till you see Pahlsson line" the answers were in the neighborhood "there wasn't ever created a line that will stop Pizza..." i guess they were right in some way... there wasn't a line before Sami's line

[Sojourn]

Rob Niedermayer

[DuckNewbie]

Rob Niedermayer

Certainly under-appreciated.....

[HillerGirl]

Rob Niedermayer

did i imagine that or the amount of ENGs went down with Rob's departure?

yeah i know it has more to do with Ducks trailing most of the time last season, but w/o Rob EmptyNettermayer it's still not the same

[Sarge]

Looking from a points perspective, a guy like Matt Cullen 286 GP 200 Pts. (65G and 135A).
Thomas, Oates and Fedorov all did greats stuff while Ducks, but short times here so I discount em.
Oualasson maybe, Salei, Carney and Vish always...
Chistov, for what could have been... But wasn't for more than a season.

[DucksRule00]

Marty McInnis

[AngeFIN]

Ruslan Salei

[German Rocket #7]

Mike LeClerc and Matt Cullen.

[RGS_Quack93]

Andy Mac, Drew Miller, Matt Cullen

[Sojourn]

Can Drew Miller really be the most underrated player? He's someone who didn't accomplish much in Anaheim, and he hasn't accomplished much away from it.

[Marshy]

Adam Oates was a wizard in the faceoff circle and at passing and he was a big part of why that team made it to the Stanley Cup Finals.

Adam Oates doesn't get my vote for this very reason.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQGEK1YZ6WY

[RGS_Quack93]

Can Drew Miller really be the most underrated player?

I think he can. He was/is a role player who played very hard and looking back it was a mistake to get rid of him considering everyone involved in his trade is now gone (Drew for R2, R2 for Oystrick, Oystrick cut). He ended up having a nightly role on the Wings 66 GP, 10 G, 9 A, 19 Pts, +5 for a 3rd line wing isnt too bad.

[letsgoducksdotcom]

I think he can. He was/is a role player who played very hard and looking back it was a mistake to get rid of him considering everyone involved in his trade is now gone (Drew for R2, R2 for Oystrick, Oystrick cut). He ended up having a nightly role on the Wings 66 GP, 10 G, 9 A, 19 Pts, +5 for a 3rd line wing isnt too bad.

I think we are getting a little off track. I don't thin the question is "who was underrated by Ducks mgmt and went on to prove them wrong", I think it's more "who was much better HERE than the credit they got for it".

In that regard I think Miller got the recognition here that he deserved. Andy Mac too.

I'd look to a guy like Salei who put in very good years here and never really was a fan favorite or a guy team management really pimped. Rob Neidermayer kinda the same way.

[RGS_Quack93]

I think we are getting a little off track. I don't thin the question is "who was underrated by Ducks mgmt and went on to prove them wrong", I think it's more "who was much better HERE than the credit they got for it".

In that regard I think Miller got the recognition here that he deserved. Andy Mac too.

Good point, Then I would agree. I guess I look at how Andy Mac was dismissed and it just still pisses me off that we got rid of him for Dead Weight, but your right that was more of a mgmt thing.

[Marshy]

Good point, Then I would agree. I guess I look at how Andy Mac was dismissed and it just still pisses me off that we got rid of him for Dead Weight, but your right that was more of a mgmt thing.

The Doug Weight for Andy Mac Trade was good on paper so you cant really blame that offer from coming.



Personally, I think the most underrated Duck was Steve Rucchin. The guy was a trooper who had his face smashed in as well as winning face offs on a regular basis. If it weren't for him, I dont think that Selanne nor Kariya would have had such a good time playing here in Anaheim. During his time here, you never heard his name outside of the Anaheim franchise but I dont think defensive orientated centers like Mike Comrie would have the deals that they do if it werent for him. Seriously, compare Mike Comrie to Rucchin as far as how much you hear about these two guys. Even Ryan Kesler for that fact. (Okay so Rucchin didnt have the mean streak that Kesler does.)