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Heh it was Sean O'Donnell. Riiidiculous.
Idiots
But, then again, it's ESPN 
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But, then again, it's ESPN
That's embarrassing... 
This is a sucky situation for Kolzig, I feel bad for him. Even though this is sports and essentially it's a business, you don't like to see things like this happen to such loyal players (I'm talking about Kolzig, not OD). Good luck to Olie the Goalie.
This is a sucky situation for Kolzig, I feel bad for him. Even though this is sports and essentially it's a business, you don't like to see things like this happen to such loyal players (I'm talking about Kolzig, not OD
). Good luck to Olie the Goalie.
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Inside the Washington Capitals glam rock music video shoot
Alexander Ovechkin -- wearing a guitar over one of his designer T-shirts, along with heavy eye makeup, his hair in a Cameron Diaz/"Something About Mary" gel explosion and flip-flops -- walked a few paces back to the middle of the stage at The State Theater in Falls Church, Virginia. The cameras rolled, the white lights blasted from the back of the room and the Hart Trophy winner confidently swaggered back to the mic stand.
"D.C.!" Ovechkin said, adding a beat of anticipation as he looked into the camera, "ARE YOU READY TO ROCK!?"
Alexander Ovechkin -- wearing a guitar over one of his designer T-shirts, along with heavy eye makeup, his hair in a Cameron Diaz/"Something About Mary" gel explosion and flip-flops -- walked a few paces back to the middle of the stage at The State Theater in Falls Church, Virginia. The cameras rolled, the white lights blasted from the back of the room and the Hart Trophy winner confidently swaggered back to the mic stand.
"D.C.!" Ovechkin said, adding a beat of anticipation as he looked into the camera, "ARE YOU READY TO ROCK!?"
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Capitals send Alzner, Bourque to AHL, waive Laing
Boudreau noted that forward Sergei Fedorov's ability to move back and play on the blue line made the team comfortable about not carrying a seventh defenseman such as Alzner.
Boudreau noted that forward Sergei Fedorov's ability to move back and play on the blue line made the team comfortable about not carrying a seventh defenseman such as Alzner.
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Boy! Talk about depleting your farm team. 
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The Washington Capitals have recalled defensemen Karl Alzner and Sami Lepisto and forwards Chris Bourque and Graham Mink from their American Hockey League affiliate, the Hershey Bears, it was announced on Wednesday.
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Web Geek in Goal!
Nervous much?
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WASHINGTON (AP) -A 6-foot-7 Web site producer for the Washington Capitals prepared to dress as the team's backup goalie for Friday night's game against the Ottawa Senators because of an injury to Jose Theodore.
Nervous much?
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For the love of the game
In the eccentric world Alexander Ovechkin seems to dwell in, this one seems a little over the top. He is on the ice with the Zamboni, while his Washington Capitals teammates wait patiently on the bench for a fresh flooding before the morning skate.
But Ovechkin is too impatient to wait — and in this case too impatient even to dress. He wears nothing but red long johns, skates, gloves and carries a stick, and he is flying up and down the flooded parts of the ice as if playing keep away with the chugging machine.
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Ovechkin, the coach says, is one of those rare athletes "who loves the moment" wherein they themselves can determine the outcome when the game is on the line.
"They're the great ones — and Alex is one of them."
Boudreau says he was amazed during a game against the New Jersey Devils earlier in the season, when the Capitals tied the score with moments to go and Ovechkin was so excited.
"He just jumped right into the bench and everyone went nuts," the coach says. "I don't know if there's a team that has better celebrations than us."
In the eccentric world Alexander Ovechkin seems to dwell in, this one seems a little over the top. He is on the ice with the Zamboni, while his Washington Capitals teammates wait patiently on the bench for a fresh flooding before the morning skate.
But Ovechkin is too impatient to wait — and in this case too impatient even to dress. He wears nothing but red long johns, skates, gloves and carries a stick, and he is flying up and down the flooded parts of the ice as if playing keep away with the chugging machine.
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Ovechkin, the coach says, is one of those rare athletes "who loves the moment" wherein they themselves can determine the outcome when the game is on the line.
"They're the great ones — and Alex is one of them."
Boudreau says he was amazed during a game against the New Jersey Devils earlier in the season, when the Capitals tied the score with moments to go and Ovechkin was so excited.
"He just jumped right into the bench and everyone went nuts," the coach says. "I don't know if there's a team that has better celebrations than us."
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Viktor Kozlov defects to the KHL (and Fedorov seems to also)
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RDS.CA reports Washington Capitals forward Viktor Kozlov has signed a contract with Salavat of Russia's Kontinental Hockey League. Terms of the deal have not been reported yet.
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Oops!
A family in Florida claims it sold steroids to the Caps players.
http://www.federalbaseball.com/2009/5/27/8...-steroid-report
A family in Florida claims it sold steroids to the Caps players.
http://www.federalbaseball.com/2009/5/27/8...-steroid-report
Brendan Morrison signs 1yr/$1.5mil contract with Caps
Good luck, B-Mo!
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Morrison said he "could barely get up and down the ice" for much of the season.
"I thought I felt good and I thought I was healthy, but my legs didn't start coming around until probably the three-quarter mark," he said.
It was a huge mistake by our former GM to expect any different.
"I thought I felt good and I thought I was healthy, but my legs didn't start coming around until probably the three-quarter mark," he said.
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Alexander Ovechkin is going to miss fellow Russians Sergei Fedorov and Viktor Kozlov, both of whom have decided to play in Russia's Kontinental Hockey League this coming season.
"My attitude toward their departure is negative. We became great friends -- that's why I was a little upset when they left. But it's their decision and I won't judge them," Ovechkin told Sportbox.ru and translated by Russia Today
Ovechkin, a two-time winner of the Hart Memorial Trophy as the NHL's most valuable player, does not intend to leave the Washington Capitals for the KHL.
"It'll happen only in case of an NHL lockout, if there'll ever be any, of course," he told the website.
"My attitude toward their departure is negative. We became great friends -- that's why I was a little upset when they left. But it's their decision and I won't judge them," Ovechkin told Sportbox.ru and translated by Russia Today
Ovechkin, a two-time winner of the Hart Memorial Trophy as the NHL's most valuable player, does not intend to leave the Washington Capitals for the KHL.
"It'll happen only in case of an NHL lockout, if there'll ever be any, of course," he told the website.
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Horrible news...
Our deepest condolences to the family...
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Indescribably horrible news to pass along - Jose Theodore's second child has passed away at the age of two months, according to a report.
Our thoughts and prayers are with him and his family at this unimaginably difficult time.
LINKOur thoughts and prayers are with him and his family at this unimaginably difficult time.
Our deepest condolences to the family...
The tragic news is confirmed by the Caps.
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Heartfelt thoughts and sympathy to the Theodore family. May they receive the support they need during this sorrow-filled time.
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The two-month old son of Washington Capitals goaltender Jose Theodore has died, the team confirmed Thursday.
"We are aware of the heartbreaking news," GM George McPhee said in a statement issued by the team moments ago. "At this time we ask that everyone respects the privacy of Jose and his family."
"We are aware of the heartbreaking news," GM George McPhee said in a statement issued by the team moments ago. "At this time we ask that everyone respects the privacy of Jose and his family."
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Heartfelt thoughts and sympathy to the Theodore family. May they receive the support they need during this sorrow-filled time.
Heartbreaking event. May Jose and his family and friends find comfort and strength in their trial.
Horrible news. I hope for the best that Theodore and his family will pull through.
After another ejection, NHL can't turtle on Ovechkin decision
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Colin Campbell, you're on call.
While the Capitals wait to hear how long they might be without their top player, it's time for Colin Campbell's "Wheel of Justice" to finally land on something other than "Superstar: Move Along" when he spins it to determine the punishment for Ovechkin. Ovechkin has been towing the line on questionable hits for a while now and has avoided any sort of supplemental discipline to this point. Now, with a second ejection in less than a week, the question shouldn't be "Will he or won't he?" but "How many games?".
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While the Capitals wait to hear how long they might be without their top player, it's time for Colin Campbell's "Wheel of Justice" to finally land on something other than "Superstar: Move Along" when he spins it to determine the punishment for Ovechkin. Ovechkin has been towing the line on questionable hits for a while now and has avoided any sort of supplemental discipline to this point. Now, with a second ejection in less than a week, the question shouldn't be "Will he or won't he?" but "How many games?".
OMG will we actually see the day when Ovie finally gets what he deserves?
suspend his @$$ and after that don't say that he is not a repeat offender... that play he did was stupid and it ended up injuring two people, him included... and it's not like it's first knee-to-knee he's done...
suspend his @$$ and after that don't say that he is not a repeat offender... that play he did was stupid and it ended up injuring two people, him included... and it's not like it's first knee-to-knee he's done...
Bob McKenzie usually makes rational arguments, but supposedly he weighed in and thought that Ovechkin's knee-on-knee didin't warrant a suspension because: 1) Gleason wasn't hurt; and 2) there isn't much of a precedent for suspending players for knee-on-knee hits.
I'm sorry Bob, but that's a bunch a of baloney. It shouldn't matter if Gleason wasn't hurt; the intent was there. This is also Ovechkin's second game misconduct in three games. And he did do a similar knee-on-knee hit to Gonchar last year during their Pens/Caps playoff series--no suspension, just a two-minute minor. And in terms of precedent, wasn't Georges Laraque just suspended for five games for his knee-on-knee hit that injured Niklas Kronwall? So what's the count so far this year? One ejection for a knee-on-knee; one ejection for boarding; one fine for a slew foot. And what about some of his previous hits that were forgiven by the league (the hit to Gonchar, the boarding of Daniel Briere a few years ago---anything else?).
If Pronger and Perry can get suspended, then so should Ovechkin, but I bet he won't. Colin Campbell will simply overlook Ovechkin's actions yet again.
I'm sorry Bob, but that's a bunch a of baloney. It shouldn't matter if Gleason wasn't hurt; the intent was there. This is also Ovechkin's second game misconduct in three games. And he did do a similar knee-on-knee hit to Gonchar last year during their Pens/Caps playoff series--no suspension, just a two-minute minor. And in terms of precedent, wasn't Georges Laraque just suspended for five games for his knee-on-knee hit that injured Niklas Kronwall? So what's the count so far this year? One ejection for a knee-on-knee; one ejection for boarding; one fine for a slew foot. And what about some of his previous hits that were forgiven by the league (the hit to Gonchar, the boarding of Daniel Briere a few years ago---anything else?).
If Pronger and Perry can get suspended, then so should Ovechkin, but I bet he won't. Colin Campbell will simply overlook Ovechkin's actions yet again.
Ovechkin suspended for 2 games
Not enough games in my opinion, but the NHL needed to do it to save face.
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The NHL announced Tuesday that Washington Capitals' forward Alexander Ovechkin has been suspended two games as the result of a knee-on-knee collision with Tim Gleason of the Carolina Hurricanes Monday night in a 3-2 Washington victory.
Read More >>Not enough games in my opinion, but the NHL needed to do it to save face.
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Not enough games in my opinion, but the NHL needed to do it to save face.
Not enough games in my opinion, but the NHL needed to do it to save face.
Agreed. Since the first time I saw Ovechkin at the Ponda I thought he was an over-hyped goon in training. He's lived up to my expectations after just one season. As I said after that game I was completely disappointed in a player with such remarkable and outstanding talents resorting to this kind of nonsense. It demeans the game and it demeans the player.
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Not enough games in my opinion, but the NHL needed to do it to save face.
Not enough games in my opinion, but the NHL needed to do it to save face.
The number of games is just about right, should have been 3 but 2 will do. At least hes getting something here and the league is at least slapping him on the hand.
OMFG!!! someone check the temperature in hell...
*goes to weather.com*
that's the closest it gave me to what i was looking for...
*goes to weather.com*
that's the closest it gave me to what i was looking for...
From Puck Daddy
He also wonders if Ovie got the 2 because he's injured and actually wouldn't have played the 2 anyway.....
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Oh, and Ovechkin will forfeit $98,844.16 during those two games. And in the time it took you to read that, he just made it back.
He also wonders if Ovie got the 2 because he's injured and actually wouldn't have played the 2 anyway.....
at least they can't use "he is not repeat offender" card any more...
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Washington Capitals left wing Alex Ovechkin took the ice for Tuesday's game against the Montreal Canadiens wearing the captain's ‘C' on his sweater for the first time, hours after being named as the 14th captain in club history.
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Capitals General Manager George McPhee thinks Ovechkin embodies the Caps spirit.
“Our team has adopted Alex’s personality, and the energy, passion and drive to win that are his hallmarks have become our team’s as well," McPhee said. "He sets the tone, on the ice as well as off. He’s respectful to everyone and a great ambassador for our team and our sport. We look forward to him leading the Washington Capitals for a long time.”
“Our team has adopted Alex’s personality, and the energy, passion and drive to win that are his hallmarks have become our team’s as well," McPhee said. "He sets the tone, on the ice as well as off. He’s respectful to everyone and a great ambassador for our team and our sport. We look forward to him leading the Washington Capitals for a long time.”
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I just received the annual email from the Washington Capitals to renew season tickets for the 2010-11 season.
This year’s increase in price? Approximately 32%.
Ouch.
Yes, the Caps’ current ticket prices—particularly for my seats in the front row of the upper deck—are not only significantly discounted from face value, but quite a bargain by league standards. According to The New York Times, 20 NHL teams charged more, on average, for tickets than the Capitals did in 2009-10.
Nonetheless, it was a bit of a shock seeing the new total invoice amount in a painfully-enlarged lump-sum...
Link from KK forum
This year’s increase in price? Approximately 32%.
Ouch.
Yes, the Caps’ current ticket prices—particularly for my seats in the front row of the upper deck—are not only significantly discounted from face value, but quite a bargain by league standards. According to The New York Times, 20 NHL teams charged more, on average, for tickets than the Capitals did in 2009-10.
Nonetheless, it was a bit of a shock seeing the new total invoice amount in a painfully-enlarged lump-sum...
Link from KK forum
Can you imagine a 32% increase to watch Muck-a-Puck/Let's-Play-Shorthanded/Sit-on-a-One-Goal-Lead NHL hockey in Anaheim?
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Can you imagine a 32% increase to watch Muck-a-Puck/Let's-Play-Shorthanded/Sit-on-a-One-Goal-Lead NHL hockey in Anaheim?
NO! I can not and will not. 'Course part of that "will not" is because I'm not down THERE anymore and I don't have a passport so I can't go watch the Canucks play. I really should get a passport, I'm thinking, that way I can at least take a run up when the Ducks are playing the Canucks.
Ovechkin gets a boarding major and a game misconduct:
I'm not saying it was an OK hit, but to be objective about it, Campbell's right skate hit a rut and he lost his cutting edge for deceleration, so it wound up being a big impact into the boards due to carrying his full speed. You can see it at about the 50sec mark of this clip, and the broadcasters showed it more clearly in their intermission report.
The chance of this turning into a suspension for Ovie is about as good as the Ducks chances to win the Cup this year, IMO.
I'm not saying it was an OK hit, but to be objective about it, Campbell's right skate hit a rut and he lost his cutting edge for deceleration, so it wound up being a big impact into the boards due to carrying his full speed. You can see it at about the 50sec mark of this clip, and the broadcasters showed it more clearly in their intermission report.
The chance of this turning into a suspension for Ovie is about as good as the Ducks chances to win the Cup this year, IMO.
QUOTE (ladiesandgentlemen @ Mar 14 2010, 02:57 PM)
Ovechkin gets a boarding major and a game misconduct:
I'm not saying it was an OK hit, but to be objective about it, Campbell's right skate hit a rut and he lost his cutting edge for deceleration, so it wound up being a big impact into the boards due to carrying his full speed. You can see it at about the 50sec mark of this clip, and the broadcasters showed it more clearly in their intermission report.
The chance of this turning into a suspension for Ovie is about as good as the Ducks chances to win the Cup this year, IMO.
I'm not saying it was an OK hit, but to be objective about it, Campbell's right skate hit a rut and he lost his cutting edge for deceleration, so it wound up being a big impact into the boards due to carrying his full speed. You can see it at about the 50sec mark of this clip, and the broadcasters showed it more clearly in their intermission report.
The chance of this turning into a suspension for Ovie is about as good as the Ducks chances to win the Cup this year, IMO.
It looks way worse than what it was, not for Campbell, just the whole situation. Ovie didnt really push him that hard and like you said you can see where he lost his edge on that right skate which started sending him over in a weird way as it was. I dont think he should be suspended for that, there was no intent there, just a bad break.
Soupy apparently has broken ribs and a cracked clavicle and a concussion from the incident, so that ups the ante for a suspension, I suppose. Since Colin Campbell just played his consistency card with the Matt Cooke hit on Marc Savard and said he couldn't do anything to Cooke because he didn't with the same situation previous to it in Richards vs. Booth, then he kind of looks stupid if he doesn't deal with this in the same way he did with the last boarding with injury incident that resulted in a 4 game suspension for Max Lapierre for his boarding of Scott Nichol.
Campbell has put himself in, shall we say, an "awkward position". But I guess that is nothing new for him.
QUOTE (RGS_Quack93 @ Mar 15 2010, 09:52 AM)
It looks way worse than what it was, not for Campbell, just the whole situation. Ovie didnt really push him that hard and like you said you can see where he lost his edge on that right skate which started sending him over in a weird way as it was. I dont think he should be suspended for that, there was no intent there, just a bad break.
Are you serious? This was a hard shove from Ovechkin, with full extension, and it was right in the numbers. The NHL has to suspend Ovechkin for this. He's a repeat offender, the player in question was injured(and quite badly), and it was a textbook example of a major boarding incident.
The precedent set by Lappy's suspension just reinforces all of this. It was a reckless and dangerous play by Ovechkin, and let's face the facts - he's becoming known for these kinds of plays.
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Washington Post reporting two-game suspension for Ovechkin.
-- McKenzie (Twitter)
I think four would have been better, but at least they suspended him. Expect to see more suspensions if he keeps playing as recklessly as he has been. Hell, this is his second suspension this season alone, and he just doesn't seem to care that he might injure someone.
QUOTE (Sojourn @ Mar 15 2010, 01:40 PM)
Are you serious? This was a hard shove from Ovechkin, with full extension, and it was right in the numbers. The NHL has to suspend Ovechkin for this. He's a repeat offender, the player in question was injured(and quite badly), and it was a textbook example of a major boarding incident.
The precedent set by Lappy's suspension just reinforces all of this. It was a reckless and dangerous play by Ovechkin, and let's face the facts - he's becoming known for these kinds of plays.
The precedent set by Lappy's suspension just reinforces all of this. It was a reckless and dangerous play by Ovechkin, and let's face the facts - he's becoming known for these kinds of plays.
Eh its questionable to me, I can clearly see where Campbell started to lose the edge and thr right skate comes up, throwing him off balance. Looked as if even if Ovie didnt touch him he was going down. Then on top of that you have the shove from Ovie when made it worse but hey if the NHL says suspension then thats that.
QUOTE (Sojourn @ Mar 15 2010, 01:40 PM)
it was a textbook example of a major boarding incident.
Hardly.
It was a push into the boards... from the goal line.
"textbook" boarding would have been a check from behind ... Ovechkin would have made a Campbell sandwich with Himself and the boards as the bread.
Ugly play, bad outcome and the NHL HAS to suspend him because they have to be "consistent"... but there was no obvious intent to injure here.
QUOTE (RGS_Quack93 @ Mar 15 2010, 02:43 PM)
Eh its questionable to me, I can clearly see where Campbell started to lose the edge and thr right skate comes up, throwing him off balance. Looked as if even if Ovie didnt touch him he was going down. Then on top of that you have the shove from Ovie when made it worse but hey if the NHL says suspension then thats that.
It's more the position Campbell was in. I agree with l&g, for example, that it was Campbell that put himself in a vulnerable position. Even with that being said, it was Ovechkin who came in from behind and gave him a pretty heavy shove, and I call it that because you can clearly see the momentum Campbell gains from the shove. Either Campbell weighs a buck fifty tops or Ovechkin pushed pretty hard.
I think the NHL had to suspend him for two reasons. 1) It was a careless and reckless play, and that is becoming far too common with Ovie, especially this season. It shouldn't matter if you intend to hurt someone in some cases. You made a bad decision that could, or did, hurt someone. It's that simple. When I was a kid if I threw a ball in the house and I broke something I got punished for it. It wasn't intentional, but I was punished all the same. Ovechkin plays like a kid who doesn't know the rules a lot of nights. It's a lesson he needs to learn. 2) Let's face it, whether or not Campbell would have gone down or not, Ovechkin still came in behind and shoved him head first towards the boards. The resulting incident hurt him pretty severely. It would be negligent of Campbell to say "Well, Campbell would have fallen anyway." when it was a clear boarding call that was completely unnecessary. Keep in mind it wasn't a hit. It was a shove.
QUOTE (Todrick @ Mar 15 2010, 03:29 PM)
Hardly.
It was a push into the boards... from the goal line.
"textbook" boarding would have been a check from behind ... Ovechkin would have made a Campbell sandwich with Himself and the boards as the bread.
Ugly play, bad outcome and the NHL HAS to suspend him because they have to be "consistent"... but there was no obvious intent to injure here.
It was a push into the boards... from the goal line.
"textbook" boarding would have been a check from behind ... Ovechkin would have made a Campbell sandwich with Himself and the boards as the bread.
Ugly play, bad outcome and the NHL HAS to suspend him because they have to be "consistent"... but there was no obvious intent to injure here.
A shove and a check are not differentiated by the rules. They are one and the same. A shove is just more dangerous for this kind of play. You're also incorrect on where it took place. The point of initial contact was at the goal line. The point of release was probably half that, between the boards and the goal line. It also doesn't matter whether it was at the goal line, at the boards themselves, or anywhere inbetween. The rules are very clear on this, in fact. It's "in such a manner that causes the opponent to be thrown violently into the boards."
That sandwich kind of check you're talking about is only one type of boarding. Plenty of boarding calls don't involve this at all. They involve a player who is usually about five or so feet from the boards who is shoved from behind towards them.
This was textbook boarding.
QUOTE (Todrick @ Mar 15 2010, 03:29 PM)
Ugly play, bad outcome and the NHL HAS to suspend him because they have to be "consistent"... but there was no obvious intent to injure here.
Not sure where you are coming up with the Intent to Injure angle.
Was that a part of the suspension decision, or ?
I've not seen anyone (apart from Ovie haters) claim there was any intent to injure on Ovechkin's part.
Did I miss something?
I haven't seen a press release from Campbell regarding the incident yet, but I don't believe intent to injure was factored in.
I'd expect to see words like reckless, dangerous, careless, etc... thrown around by Campbell, but not intent to injure.
I'd expect to see words like reckless, dangerous, careless, etc... thrown around by Campbell, but not intent to injure.
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The National Hockey League has suspended Washington Capitals forward Alexander Ovechkin for two games for his hit on Chicago Blackhawks defenceman Brian Campbell on Sunday afternoon.
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Ovechkin's teammate Mike Knuble did not want to comment specifically on the hit, but said he would like to see his hard-hitting teammate tone down some of his aggressiveness.
''He has the reputation that he plays hard, but things seem to be happening around him,'' Knuble told The Washington Post. ''You would like to see him being more careful.''
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Ovechkin's teammate Mike Knuble did not want to comment specifically on the hit, but said he would like to see his hard-hitting teammate tone down some of his aggressiveness.
''He has the reputation that he plays hard, but things seem to be happening around him,'' Knuble told The Washington Post. ''You would like to see him being more careful.''
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Fans of Ovechkin defend his style, saying he "plays on the edge". Critics contend that's simply a metaphor for his dirty play.
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"I respect everybody," Ovechkin said after Sunday's game. "We respect everybody here in the locker room and outside, but over there (on the ice), we play for our team, and we make some hard hits, and sometimes, you get hurt. That's a hockey game."
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"I respect everybody," Ovechkin said after Sunday's game. "We respect everybody here in the locker room and outside, but over there (on the ice), we play for our team, and we make some hard hits, and sometimes, you get hurt. That's a hockey game."
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QUOTE (ladiesandgentlemen @ Mar 15 2010, 03:59 PM)
Not sure where you are coming up with the Intent to Injure angle.
Was that a part of the suspension decision, or ?
I've not seen anyone (apart from Ovie haters) claim there was any intent to injure on Ovechkin's part.
Did I miss something?
Was that a part of the suspension decision, or ?
I've not seen anyone (apart from Ovie haters) claim there was any intent to injure on Ovechkin's part.
Did I miss something?
No i was saying that "intent to injure" would REQUIRE suspension, at least to me.
It was an unfortunate incident, but it's not like Ovechkin was trying to hurt him... just take him out of the play.
Not sure if I agree with the suspension. I have a huge bias, but he wasn't trying to hurt Campbell and he wasn't going for a dirty hit. It just as easily could have been a hit where Campbell bounced off the boards safely. Ovechkin is definitely not a dirty player. I think it was Josh Gorges who, in an interview with TSN, said that Ovehckin plays the game 100 miles per hour at all times. When you play like that, things are going to happen. He throws everything into every shift, every shot, every pass, and of course every hit, and it's not (always) something he should be criticized for.
A word from Ovie's chief benefactor:
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I don’t think Alex should have received a game misconduct for that play. I don’t think he should miss our next game either. Matt Cooke didn’t get suspended or a penalty called on his hit last week, but Alex Ovechkin the league’s MVP did on that play? I don’t get it. But it is what it is. We will move on, play hard and we won’t “explain or complain”.
Ted's Take
Ted's Take
What does Ovechkin being "the league's MVP" have to do with it?
Leonsis, normally a real asset to the NHL, didn't do the league any favor with that comment.
QUOTE (Captain-Crunch @ Mar 15 2010, 04:57 PM)
Not sure if I agree with the suspension. I have a huge bias, but he wasn't trying to hurt Campbell and he wasn't going for a dirty hit. It just as easily could have been a hit where Campbell bounced off the boards safely. Ovechkin is definitely not a dirty player. I think it was Josh Gorges who, in an interview with TSN, said that Ovehckin plays the game 100 miles per hour at all times. When you play like that, things are going to happen. He throws everything into every shift, every shot, every pass, and of course every hit, and it's not (always) something he should be criticized for.
That's the problem, Crunch. These things keep happening around Ovechkin. How many times are you going to ask if a player is dirty when he keeps making dirty plays? At what point does he actually become a dirty player? Ovechkin fans like to say he plays on the edge. I think that's just another way of saying "He plays dirty/carelessly." without admitting he is careless or dirty.
As for intending to injure Campbell... intent to injure is not required for a suspension to be justified.
This is a case where Ovechkin deserves to take criticism. This isn't the first time he's made a careless play. It's not even the second or third time. This is something that has become far too common a thing from Ovechkin, and he's gotten away with probably a lot more than he should have. Going out there onto the ice and giving it his all every shift does not excuse him from making these kinds of plays. These kinds of hits do not belong in hockey any more than Cooke's hit does. In this case the player, Campbell, was hurt pretty seriously. The truly disappointing thing to me is I don't even think Ovechkin realizes that what he did was wrong. He never seems to understand. For all of his talent, the guy just doesn't seem to use his head.
QUOTE (Sojourn @ Mar 15 2010, 09:01 PM)
Ovechkin fans like to say he plays on the edge. I think that's just another way of saying "He plays dirty/carelessly." without admitting he is careless or dirty.
But again, not everyone sees this as a dirty hit (and I'm not just talking about Ovechkin fans). It wasn't a dirty hit, and lots of games have hits just like this, where the players skate away fine. Campbell was hurt, but Ovechkin didn't race in there with intent to injure him.
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via the Washington Capitals PR department,
Statement from Alex Ovechkin
“I am very sorry that Brian was injured and I hope he is able to return to his team soon. NHL hockey is a physical game. We all play hard every time we are on the ice and have battles each shift in every game we play so we can do our jobs and win. As players we must accept responsibility for our actions and I am no different but I did not intend to injure Brian and that is why I was disappointed with the NHL’s decision yesterday. Every time I have the honor to play for my team, I will continue to do what I have done since I was taught to play. I will play hard, play with passion and play with respect for my teammates, opponents and fans. I look forward to returning to my team and doing everything I can to be the best player I can be.”
Kuklas Korner
Statement from Alex Ovechkin
“I am very sorry that Brian was injured and I hope he is able to return to his team soon. NHL hockey is a physical game. We all play hard every time we are on the ice and have battles each shift in every game we play so we can do our jobs and win. As players we must accept responsibility for our actions and I am no different but I did not intend to injure Brian and that is why I was disappointed with the NHL’s decision yesterday. Every time I have the honor to play for my team, I will continue to do what I have done since I was taught to play. I will play hard, play with passion and play with respect for my teammates, opponents and fans. I look forward to returning to my team and doing everything I can to be the best player I can be.”
Kuklas Korner
Doesn't sound like he gets it yet.
No reasonable observer is accusing him of intending to injure Campbell, and he is not being suspend for that.
He is being held accountable for his increasing negligence to exercise enough discipline in his aggressive play to prevent excessive risk of injury to his opponents.
QUOTE (ladiesandgentlemen @ Mar 16 2010, 10:42 AM)
Doesn't sound like he gets it yet.
Sounds like he gets it to me. What is he supposed to say, that hes happy with the suspension? He is saying exactly what his PR guy told him to say, he plays hard and physical and the he is sorry that Campbell is hurt.
QUOTE (RGS_Quack93 @ Mar 16 2010, 10:46 AM)
Sounds like he gets it to me. What is he supposed to say, that hes happy with the suspension? He is saying exactly what his PR guy told him to say, he plays hard and physical and the he is sorry that Campbell is hurt.
Then why does he talk about "intent to injure" instead of what he was suspended for?
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